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Baba 40 is a 39 ′ 9 ″ / 12.1 m monohull sailboat designed by Robert Perry and built by Ta Shing Yacht Building Ltd. between 1980 and 1996.

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Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

The Baba 40, also known as the Panda 40 and later the Tashiba 40, is the third of the Baba lineup of boats involving developer Bob Berg, designer Bob Perry, and the Ta Shing boatyard. One can arguably consider the Baba 40 a full keel reincarnation of the Valiant 40 , the boat that put the word “performance” next to “cruiser”. Knowing that I guess it’s not so surprising to find the Baba 40 inherits a good turn of speed – owners even trumpet around-the-buoys racing victories in these serious blue water cruisers. They are beautifully balanced with a wonderful feel at the helm, and what’s more, they have some of the best interiors to be seen in production cruising yachts.

The story of the Baba 40 really starts with the Baba 30 which brought together a winning combination of talents – developer Bob Berg, designer Bob Perry , and what was then a little known Taiwanese boatyard called Shing Sheng. Through the success of the little Baba 30 and the Baba 35 , Shing Sheng started on the road to become a force in the boatbuilding world. By 1979 they had changed their name to Ta Shing and had moved to a new purpose built factory. It was in this year that Berg commissioned Perry to design a new 40-foot model to fill out the line.

Perry was not happy with merely evolving his earlier Baba 35 design, which in itself was a stretched version of the 30. Instead, in search of more boat speed, Perry dusted off the lines of his famous Valiant 40 with its radical fin keel and separate skeg-hung rudder had defined the “performance cruiser” category only five years earlier. From the Valiant 40 hull form he derived an all-new full keel design which was to be the Baba 40. It proved to be a huge step forward over earlier Babas with Perry describing the Baba 40 having an entirely different stability personality. It was stiffer initially, beautifully balanced and much faster.

Tim Ellis who oversaw construction fondly remembers the symbiotic partnering of Berg’s development and management, Perry’s design, and Ta Shing’s undisputed capabilities as builder. He recalls the exacting attention fostered by Berg.

“They produced a design of sublime artistry. I think it is no exaggeration to suggest that Bob Berg made at least thirty or more visits to Taiwan during the years Baba designs were under development and construction, and he and I would sit on each yacht for hours, days and more to fine tune shapes, appearances, major and minor details, and resolve the niggling issues that plagued others less well traveled. My job was to take Bob’s advice and adjustments and translate them into action. My list of items might run into the hundreds during each visit, and many, many more on a hull number one. In pursuit of his ideal, Bob left no room for equivocation, and a lesser builder would have baulked.” – Tim Ellis

The Baba 40 was introduced to the public in 1980. In 1983, when Berg left his association with the Flying Dutchman dealership who owned the Baba trademark, he marketed the boat as the Panda 40. This name did not last long and by 1984, with Ta Shing now a contender in Taiwanese boat-building, marketed the boat by themselves using the name Tashiba 40. It’s been speculated this was a play on the words names “Ta Shing” and “Baba”.

Production ended in 1996 with a total of 115 boats being built, although hull numbers can be found that run up to #182, there is a gap between #33 and #101.

Ta Shing eventually formed an exclusive relationship with the Californian based company PAEI who had Al Mason as their in-house designer. Sadly, years later when PAEI shifted focus to power boats, many of Ta Shing’s molds including the Baba 40 were cut up.

Configuration

The lines of the Baba 40 follows its ancestry back to traditional Scandinavian double-enders. Under the waterline is a full keel with a cutaway forefoot and as with many of the Perry full keel designs, the keel meets the bilge of the hull without the traditional “wine glass” section blend. Both features reduce wetted area. The hull shape is relatively beamy offering good interior volume. A cutter rig plus bowsprit combo is employed on most boats though it is believed two boats were optionally built as ketches. Another major variation was a pilothouse model with its two comfortable staterooms; about eleven pilothouses were built.

Belowdecks the quality of workmanship is superb, many Taiwanese man-hours were used in detailing the interiors with the close guidance of Berg who was known for his ability to squeeze function into every square inch of a boat. Perry also considered it one of his best, noting that it feels “right” with near perfect detailing and a layout with no apparent compromise.

On the starboard quarter, there’s a cabin with a double seagoing quarter-berth. To port there’s a well laid out U-shaped galley. In the saloon, a two-settee berth layout with pilot berth to port was offered as an option to provide extra sea-going berths. In the forward cabin, there’s a double berth offset to port. Headroom is a generous 6′ 5″.

The Tashiba 40 boats had less detailing which has been attributed cost cutting measures by Ta Shing – less teak trim, less portlights, and gone are the butterfly hatches in the Baba 40.

Construction

The Baba 40 hull is solidly built in hand-laid GRP, with hull thickness growing from 0.41″ thick at the topsides to 0.57″ at the waterline, and 0.90″ at the keel. The deck is cored with end-grained balsa, as well as high density closed-cell foam in the deck and cabin trunk. The ballast is cast iron and is encapsulated in GRP, though one boat at least was built with lead ballast.

The boat has a wonderful feel at the helm and is a fun to sail, especially as the breeze picks up. Some owners have even raced their Baba 40s against modern fin keel competitors successfully. As a testament to the boat’s speed, Michael and Elizabeth Kramer in S.V. Cambria covered 396 miles in a 46 hour passage down the Sea of Cortez broad reaching in 35 knots of wind; an impressive average of 8.6 knots.

Owners often describe their Baba’s to have a feel of solidity. In heavy weather conditions the Baba 40 has the capacity to keep sailing when many other boats are heaving-to. Of note is Jeff Hartjoy’s solo passage from Peru to Buenos Aires via Cape Horn in 2009 where he experienced an immense amount of bad weather. On that passage he reported a lot of breakages but commented about the soundness of his boat.

Buyers Notes

As with many boats older than 25 years, have your surveyor check items such as chainplates and areas of balsa coring for rot. The original mild steel fuel tanks have proven to be susceptible to corrosion and on most boats, these have been replaced.

Overall, the Baba 40 has aged well, a testament to its build quality. Most examples on the market tend to be in excellent condition and priced accordingly. As of 2010 asking prices are in the range of $160k-$200k USD.

Links, References and Further Reading

» Yacht Design According to Perry: My Boats and What Shaped Them , by Robert H. Perry (p89-p95) » Baba, Panda, Tashiba sailboat Yahoo Group,  information and owner discussions

For their assistance in the writing of this article, thanks goes out to Tim Ellis who supervised the Baba line of yachts built at Shing Sheng / Ta Sheng during 1977-1987 as well as owners from the Baba Association.

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Fifteen years after the last Baba was built in Taiwan, the sailboat's traditional styling, large interior and heavy weather performance make it a favorite of cruising couples. Its principal liability is poor light air performance.

The Baba line of boats was conceived in the mid-1970’s by Bob Berg, a Seattle yacht broker who with two business associates formed Flying Dutchman International Ltd. to import traditionally styled cruising boats from Taiwan.

Bob Perry was commissioned to design the boats, which Berg envisioned as a smaller version of the Tayana 37, one of Perry’s most popular designs. Though it is a full-keeled boat, the Tayana 37 has a greater turn of speed than most traditional yachts.

“Our objective was to produce a boat that was faster and less expensive than the Westsail 32 and the Valiant 32,” Berg said. He personally designed the boat’s interior for long­distance cruising. Two versions were offered: a V-berth model, which was popular on the West Coast, and the double berth model that was popular in the East.

Berg chose a propitious time to enter the market. Production began during the heyday of the sailboat industry in 1978 and continued until 1985. More than 230 Baba 30’s were produced. During the later stages of its history, the company produced two stretch versions of the boat-theBaba 35, of which more than 50 were built, and the Baba 40, with more than 150 built. The design of the Baba 40 was reworked twice, first as the Panda 40, and later as the Tashiba 40.

The boats were built in Taiwan for three reasons, Berg said. “Ta Shing boatbuilders were among the best in the world, and the best in Taiwan. Labor was inexpensive. And we enjoyed a favorable exchange rate.”

Ta Shing also built or builds the Mason, Panda, Tashiba and Taswell yachts.

The Baba 30 was introduced with a sticker price of $38,500 in 1977. A subsequent change in the value of the dollar resulted in a price jump to $49,500. That was followed by a 40% devaluation of the Taiwanese dollar and another increase in price.

Two other factors influenced pric­ing: The builder switched from Volvo engines, installed on early models, to Yanmar, and spruce spars were replaced by aluminum. The last boats sold were priced at $78,000.

In addition to pricing issues, the demise of Flying Dutchman International was accelerated by two other factors: a general slump in the purchase of new boats, and a shift in buyer sentiment. During the mid-1980’s, purchasing patterns shifted to a preference for lighter, faster, sleek­er-looking designs.

The Baba 30 continues to have one of the highest resale values in the marketplace. Twenty-year-old boats sell for $55,000 to $60,000; newer models for $60,000 to $65,000. Because Flying Dutchman had dealers on both coasts, the Gulf of Mexico, Great Lakes and Canada, it is possible to find used boats in most areas.

Perry’s design reflects a self-described disdain for the belief that “if it’s a traditional design it will be slow.” His objective was to take a relatively heavy, traditional double-ender and work with the hull lines to “ring every tenth of a knot in speed out of the design that I can.”

He gave the boat an easily driven hull with a prismatic coefficient of .50, “which should take care of performance in light air,” he said. The hull has considerable flair to the top­sides, which enhances stability and provides a dry ride when sailing to weather.

He also flattened the bottom more than a typical Colin Archer design in an attempt to avoid hobby horsing and enhance performance. The boat has a full keel with a cutaway forefoot, so it tracks well. One owner, however, described backing up under power as “an adventure,” a typical characteristic of full-keeled boats.

Owners give the boat high marks for its sea kindly motion in all types of sea conditions. They generally agree that it suffers in light air.

Perry was equally attentive to the needs of cruisers in the design of spaces belowdecks. That concern, coupled with a pinched stern, produces a rather smallish cockpit. Its seats are 60″ long and 20″ wide, so realistically has comfortable seating for four adults. The footwell is 44″ long and 28″ wide, but useful space is diminished by the introduction of a steering pedestal. The cockpit is not large enough for sleeping comfort­ably, but its small size is a safety feature in the event of boarding waves. Also, there are two 2″ scuppers.

The flip side of the minimalist approach to the cockpit is an increase in space belowdecks.

“Anything shorter than 30′ is too small for a long-distance cruiser, un­less you are willing to make serious compromises. At 30′, the designer still can create a workable galley, at least four full length berths, and an en­closed head,” Perry said.

The boat has 6′ 4″ headroom and a lot of stowage, even when compared to more recent 32- to 34-footers, but the price of stowage areas is a dramatic increase in displacement. The boat displaces 12,000 lb. on a 24′ 6″ water­line. Perry said that at the time he designed the Baba 30, the average 30- footer displaced about 7 ,000 lb.

“But,” he added, “you will find that the light yacht is short on stowage space, which is fine for short week­end trips and day sailing. I chose a rather beamy double-ender with a healthy displacement-to-length ratio(D/L) of 3 79, which afforded the interior volume to do a comfortable layout.”

The Baba 30 has a tall cutter rig. The sail area-to-displacement ratio (SAID) is 14.97. “While this may be viewed as a rather low figure,” he said, “it is my contention that at this size the use of a 150% genoa is not prohibitive. My aim was to design a rig compatible with the hull I had designed in terms of deriving maximum performance.”

During our test sail, we discovered that a large genoa or light air drifter contributes significantly to downwind speed in winds under 10 knots. Above 15 knots, the boat can be sailed at hull speed with a jib and staysail.

One owner told us that the boat is easily driven to weather, and will point to within 35 of apparent wind when sails are properly trimmed.

“The result of my design is not a cute cartoon,” Perry concluded, “but a really capable offshore cruising yacht.

Construction

Berg, two professional surveyors, and owners who responded to the PS Boatowner’ s Questionnaire agree that the Baba 30 is a well-constructed, blue-water vessel.

The hulls were constructed of uncored, hand-laid fiberglass using alternating layers of 1. 5-ounce mat and 24-ounce woven roving.

There are six layers in most places, and 10-12 layers in the keel area,” Berg recalled.

The interiors of early boats were smoothed and sprayed with gelcoat, and covered with a quilted vinyl material. Later models were sprayed with a foam that provided insulation and sound deadening.

Newer boats we inspected also have hulls lined with teak battens in the saloon and forepeak, which improve noise insulation and add to the boat’s traditional feel. The cabin sole is teak and holly. Cabinetry and joinery are of a quality typically associated with high-end custom yachts.

Berg disclosed that some of the hulls experienced minor blistering problems, “usually within 12″ of the waterline,” he said.

Ron Reisner, a Seattle-based surveyor and construction consultant with Reisner and McEwen, Inc., oversaw construction of Baba yachts during the 1970’s on two trips to Taiwan. He has since surveyed several used Baba 30’s, including two in 1998.

“The boats were substantially built, and have held up well,” he told us. “The only problem we have discovered is that some chainplate bolts have corroded.” Because the bolts are visible from below, their condition is easy to monitor.

Jerry Edwards, a surveyor with the same firm, concurred. Edwards sold, commissioned and performed sea trials on several boats during three years as a yacht broker, and has surveyed seven since becoming a surveyor.

“The construction is on a par with almost any quality production boat,” he said. “The electrical systems are excellent; the company used high quality wire, which was tagged and bundled. The plumbing system is also good. The blisters we saw were usually 1/8″ inch in size, and usually in small clusters near the waterline. They probably were a function of the company using isophthalic resins, rather than orthophthalic. But my main criticism of the boat is the use of a steel fuel tank.”

We inspected boats constructed in 1979 and 1983, both of which had completed trans-Pacific passages, and found no evidence of cracking or crazing on gelcoat surfaces, or of water leaks around the mast or ports. One still has a good non-skid surface on deck. On the other, its teak decks showed little wear.

The first boats produced were equipped with only one set of shrouds, Berg told us. However, after one owner’s boat was dismasted, fore and aft lower shrouds were add­ed to the single spreader rig.

Later models in­corporated a boom gallows.

Deck Layout

One of the Baba 30’s most prominent features is the 4′ bowsprit. It is surrounded by a stainless steel pulpit, and also houses two bow rollers and a large bronze winch.

Most boats were equipped with self-tending staysails, but two we inspected had been retrofitted with furlers on the jib and staysail stays, which simplified sail handling during double-handed passages across the Pacific Ocean.

The rest of the boat’s on-deck systems are rather ordinary; halyards are led to Lewmar 30 two­speed winches mounted on the cabin top, and jib sheets through blocks to Lewmar 40 two-speed winches in the cockpit. Sail tracks, port and star­board, on the coachroof, are for the stay sail sheets. The side decks are 18″ wide. The toerail is 3″ high.

Though tiny, the cockpit is functionally organized. Stowage space includes a port lazarette, two elevated, oval­shaped compartments aft that also provide a backrest for the helmsman and crew, and another vented compartment for a propane tank. Two 14″-wide cubbies with teak covers are good for stowing winch handles and other small items.

Two hatches and four bronze opening ports on each side of the cabin were standard. Two opening skylights over the saloon are 34″ long and 18″ wide; a second 24″ square hatch is located over the forepeak. Additional ventilation is through two 6″ Dorades installed in fiberglass boxes forward of the mast.

One owner mounted a spinnaker pole on a sail track on the front of the mast, which takes no otherwise usable space and eliminates the need to drill holes in the deck.

Accommodations

A number of Baba 30’s have made trans-oceanic passages, carrying adequate provisions for a crew of two. One couple spent 27 days sailing from Hawaii to Seattle.

The layout is fairly straightforward with the galley to port below the companionway, the nav station opposite, and a quarterberth to starboard. An almost triangular-shaped head is to starboard, forward of the saloon, and the V-berth fills the bow. With the exception of countertops in the galley, all of the surfaces are teak, which has aged well on the boats we saw.

The nav table is 28″ wide, and 17″ deep. A cabinet 26″ wide, 14″ high and 12″ deep is on the forward edge of the nav station and provides adequate room for VHS, GPS, ham radio or single-sideband and weatherfax. An additional 50″ x 9″ shelf provides room for books and other instruments.

The quarterberth aft of the nav station is 68″ long (plus 12″ of the nav seat) and 30″ wide and has stowage below it.

We found two interesting stowage areas under the companionway-a hanging locker immediately to starboard of the engine compartment that is large enough for two sets of foul weather gear, and another 18″ wide and 12″ high into which one owner had mounted a small microwave oven.

The engine is accessible by removing the companionway steps and cover, though some owners complain that changing oil filters is an acrobatic challenge.

The galley is a typical U-shaped affair with the ice box aft, a gimbaled two-burner stove and a dry locker and sink forward. Countertops are as large as those found on bigger boats.

Living spaces are equally spacious, partially attributable to the boat’s 10′ 6″ beam and 6′ 4″ headroom. The port settee is 6′ long and the starboard settee is 50″. Three storage compartments measuring 20″ wide, 21″ tall and 16″ deep are located on both sides of the boat, above which are enclosed cabinets more than 24″ long.

Water and fuel tanks are located below the settees.

The head is large enough to be functional but has little elbow room. It measures 31″ deep and 42″ wide, and is equipped with a circular stainless sink. The medicine cabinet is large enough for some toiletries, but too small for a cruising medical kit.

The hanging locker to port is 43″ high and 18″ wide-adequate for a small amount of clothing. We think most clothes will be stored in cabinets below the 77″ x 60″ V-berth. The chain locker/forepeak is accessed through louvered teak doors. A drawback is the water that can come aboard with the ground tackle, not to mention the smell of mud.

In our opinion, the spaces below­decks on this boat are well-organized and adequate for couples planning extended passages, especially com­pared to newer production boats.

Some owners, however, report that tankage numbers are inaccurate. One told us that the fuel tank holds just 2 7 gallons, not 40 as advertised. Another said the two 40-gallon water tanks hold only 50 gallons combined.

Performance

Our experience aboard the Baba 30, corroborated by PS readers, found that in very light winds she’s an under-performer; above that, she performs on all points of sail, is sea kindly and has an easy helm.

The most cogent comments came from a couple in their mid-50’s who sailed a 1976 model from Hawaii to Seattle. After cruising Hawaiian waters for 18 months, they began the upwind route to the mainland, which took 27 days. The boat was not equipped with a spinnaker, so they used a 150% genoa in light air.

In less than 10 knots of wind the boat made 1-2 knots, steered to within 5 of its intended course for three days by an Auto-helm wind vane. When winds picked up to more than 10 knots, boat speed increased to 5 knots while sailing under the vane on a close reach. Three days from port the boat was struck by a 30-hour storm, during which winds built from 20 to 50 knots.

“The wind vane wasn’t operating properly, so we disconnected it, and steered by hand,” the skipper said. “Aside from general fatigue, we had no problems because the boat was easy to sail and the helm well-bal­anced; we just tied off the helm and hid behind the dodger, sailing under a double-reefed main and staysail. The ride was very comfortable. It seems as though the more the wind blew, the stouter the boat became.”

Conclusions

We think the Baba 30 will be pleasing to the eye of any sailor with an appreciation for traditional yachts. The construction methods are among the best used during its era, and have aged well; recent surveys of aging boats show them to be structurally sound. Accommodations are spacious and the joiner work is of very good quality. Performance is about what we’d ex­pect for a boat with her displacement, so it’s no surprise that she’s sluggish in 5-10 knots of wind.

The Baba 30 has held its value well; used boats are still commanding prices nearly as high as they were 10 years ago.

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I’ve never seen a 30 – or any baba – with a self tending staysail, nor have i ever heard of it anywhere else. I don’t know where the number of hatches came from either : companionway, forward hatch, and 10 opening windows (all of them). Most 30s have one inline and one aft lower (though a few moved the inline lower shroud forward). Otherwise, this seems mostly accurate. Oh, several dozen hull numbers were skipped so there’s about 150 30s produced i believe.

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T he Baba 30 is a small but serious cruising boat. And it certainly looks the part with a shapely canoe stern, springy sheerline and proud bowsprit. The Baba 30 pedigree arcs through Colin Archer's converted lifeboats of the 19th century to the famed Tahiti ketches that carried early cruisers around the world between wars. More recently, like many small double-enders that sprang to life in the 1970s, the Baba 30 was inspired by the stunning success of the Westsail 32. Baba 30 designer Bob Perry confesses that the Westsail was a role model of sorts for some of his early cruising designs.

"To sell a cruising design in those days, it had to look something like the Westsail," Perry said.

Indeed, salty double-enders with full keels were de rigueur during those cruising boom years, and not surprisingly they've stood the test of time. Many are still making bluewater passages today. This past summer I noted an older Baba 30 in the anchorage at St. George's, Bermuda. It glistened with fresh varnish and its solo skipper was on his way to the Mediterranean. When American exporter Bob Berg commissioned a small yard in Tainan, Taiwan, to build Perry's design, few would have predicted that Ta Shing, then a fledgling builder of local fishing boats, would develop into one of the world's finest yacht builders. Quoted in Spurr's comprehensive book, Heart of Glass, Perry says that he had to kick the chickens out of the way when walking to the Ta Shing yard in those early days. According to Spurr, the workers couldn't pronounce Bob Berg's name, it came out as "Baba," and it stuck. The Baba 30 sounds better than the Berg 30. Launched in 1978, the Baba 30 was Ta Shing's first sailboat, and by the time production stopped in 1985, 230 had been built. Perry credits Berg with taking the time to overcome communication snafus with the crew at Ta Shing, thus eliminating the construction woes that plagued other Taiwan yards. "Ta Shing essentially required no learning curve," Perry said. "They were great right out of the starting blocks." Ta Shing went on to produce many fine sailboat lines, including Taswell, Norseman and Tashiba.

First impressions

If you're a traditionalist the Baba 30 will stir you. Nicely proportioned and laden with teak, the Baba 30 conjures visions of lush tropical islands. Close your eyes, can you see it, a lovely Baby 30 swinging at anchor in Cook's Bay, Moorea? Once aboard you realize that the Baba 30 isn't really a pocket cruiser. It's a big boat trapped in short body. The 12,500 pounds of displacement and 5,000 pounds of ballast are the telling figures. By way of comparison, other early full-keel 30-footers like the Alberg, Bristol and Cape Dory weigh considerably less. The rig is a classic cutter with 504 square feet of working sail area. Early boats were fitted with wooden spars and came standard with a hanked-on staysail and yankee. Today, most Baba 30s on the used market have furling headsails and some a furling staysail as well. The hull shape features a long bow overhang and gradual sloping forefoot that trails into a long keel section. The rudder is completely protected and the prop is housed in a small aperture. While the Baba 30 is at home in blue water, especially if it's blowing, it's a handful when backing into a slip under power.

Construction

The hull is solid fiberglass, laid up to heavy scantlings. Supposedly the lamination schedule exceeded Lloyd's A-1 specs and some boats were built to Lloyd's 100-A1 and have the certificate to prove it. This process didn't require more fiberglass just more supervision. The deck is cored with either balsa or plywood, in either case end-grain sections were used to prevent the spread of core delamination caused by leaks. Most early boats had teak decks. Love them or loathe them, everybody has an opinion on teak decks. If they haven't gone off yet, they look nice and offer the best nonskid surface ever developed. However, if the bungs are popping, the fasteners are weeping, and the planks are too thin to sand another time, replacing them is an expensive proposition. Even just removing them and switching to a fiberglass or a synthetic nonskid surface like Treadmaster is costly and a lot of work. Later in the production run Ta Shing went with textured nonskid decks and cabintops. That of course didn't mean these models were low maintenance, there's still plenty of teak to keep you busy. The hull and deck are joined chemically and mechanically with stainless bolts. The teak caprail covers the joint. Although some older boats featured solid teak staved bulkheads, most Baba 30s have teak-faced plywood bulkheads, which are preferred. There is a lot of solid teak below and the overall joinerwork is superb. The internal ballast consists of a single cast iron ingot placed in the keel cavity and glassed over. The bowsprit is robustly constructed of laminated wood and anchored by an impressive samson post.

What to look for

Baba 30s demand steady maintenance. If the external teak is not kept up the boat can look shoddy. Conversely, an investment of time and sandpaper can make the boat look stunning again. The basic construction was first rate, and for the most part the boats have held up very well, especially considering many have completed extensive cruises. Naturally there are certain items to watch for when purchasing a Baba 30. As noted above, early boats often came with wooden spars. I'd look for a boat with an aluminum mast and boom. If you need to replace a wooden spar contact Forespar; they built most of the later aluminum masts. In a perfect world I'd also look for a model without teak decks. However, that will limit your choices. Other documented problems concern the fuel and water tanks. The fuel tank was black iron, and although diesel is a wonderful lubricate, these tanks do rust because they are situated in the bilge and the Baba 30 bilge drainage system is not the best. Water tanks were often an inferior stainless steel and should be checked as well. Replacing the tanks is a big job that usually requires cabin sole surgery. Naturally, all age-related items should be inspected carefully, including the standing and running rigging. The chainplates deserve close scrutiny as they're prone to crevice corrosion and there have been some documented failures. The Baba owners' Web site, www.babaowners.org , offers maintenance tips and other more involved retrofit suggestions.

The cockpit of the Baba is designed for offshore sailing as defined in the 1970s. Translation: It's cramped and uncomfortable but offers little volume for water to accumulate should a wave crash aboard. This is a tradeoff you just have to live with and try to make things better with cockpit cushions. Steering can be either tiller or wheel. I prefer the tiller for simplicity and because it occupies less space, especially in port when it can be pushed aft out of the way. However, because the Baba 30 can carry a lot of sail in a blow, it can also develop biceps-building weather helm and that gets tiring with a tiller. Like any serious cruising boat, reliable self-steering is vitally important. The canoe stern is well suited for fitting a wind vane. There is a stout bridgedeck and I like the teak doors that are always ready to close if things turn snotty. The deck feels secure as you make your way forward. The small bulwark, well-supported stanchions and lifelines and a long teak grabrail combine to give you something to lean on when you leave the cockpit. The headsail lead tracks are mounted on the side decks while the staysail track is on the coachroof. There's plenty of clutter on deck, including a large wooden hatch forward, a lovely butterfly hatch over the saloon, dorade vent guards and other assorted bits and pieces. But that's part of the charm too. You don't choose a Baba 30 if you're looking for a sleek, modern deck profile. The mainsheet traveler is forward of the companionway. Some boats will have sail controls led aft, which is convenient if not wildly efficient.

While the layout is predictable, the workmanship is remarkable. The interior fairly drips with teak. White mica surfaces in the galley are about the only areas below that are not finished in teak. It's impressive how well many of the 30s still look. This is a testament to excellent original construction and to building boats that didn't leak. Nothing spoils a handsome teak interior faster than leaky decks and overhead fittings. While the interior is a bit dark by today's standards, it's also warm and inviting in colder climates. There's good ventilation provided by two huge overhead hatches and opening bronze portlights. The layout features a U-shaped galley to port including double stainless sinks, a full-sized stove and oven and ample storage. This is a galley more likely found aboard a 36-foot cruiser. Opposite is a quarterberth that forms the seat for the nav station. This berth usually turns into a storage bin. The chart table is also well-sized with a couple of shelves above. The electrical panel is positioned so that it is easy to accidently trip breakers when seated at the nav station, but this is easily corrected. There's also a draining wet locker to starboard of the companionway. Later boats featured a bulkhead-mounted fold-up table in the saloon, freeing up valuable space. Some early boats had fixed tables. The port settee makes the best sea berth and there are lockers and bins above each. Some boats will have retrofitted mica surfaces around the portlights, a practical move that brightens the boat. There are stout overhead grabrails throughout. The head is forward to starboard and includes a shower sump. The V-berth is spacious with lockers below and louvered shelves to port and starboard.

Ta Shing used a variety of engines during its seven-year production of the Baba 30, including Volvo, Westerbeke and Yanmar. The last engine, the Yanmar 3GMF 27-horsepower is probably the best, at least it's less expensive to maintain. Buying parts for old Volvos and Westerbekes can break your heart. I know, I've owned both. Access is from the behind the companionway steps, and it helps to be small and nimble when it's a time to work on the engine. The Baba 30 performs surprisingly well under power, at least in forward, with owners mentioning 6 knots as comfortable cruising speed. The fuel tank holds 40 gallons. If it's the original tank, it is baffled and has a large inspection plate, allowing you to peer in and see if the external corrosion has reached the inside of the tank.

The Baba 30 won't win many races but it will carry you across an ocean safely and, considering it's just 30 feet, in relative comfort. The boat is at its best on a reach, and can carry full sail up to around 20 knots. Sail handling depends on how the boat is set up. If you have a genoa forward, you'll use the staysail less than if you are using the working yankee. Most Baba 30 owners seem to have opted for furling genoas. By the way, a partially furled genoa raises the center of effort making them quasi-yankee-like. On a deep reach, some owners prefer a reacher, others a cruising spinnaker, and others a poled out genoa. For an ocean crossing I'd opt for a lightweight reacher for light winds and a robust genoa that can ride poled out day and after day withstanding stiff trade winds and putting miles below the keel.

Sailing upwind, the Baba 30 becomes more efficient as the wind pipes up. Owners report that it becomes necessary to reef the main when the wind pipes up to 20 knots when working headsails are flying, and a bit earlier with a genoa. The main is best trimmed with the traveler when sailing to weather, to balance the natural weather helm. In heavy air, the Baba 30 handles well with a double-reefed main and staysail. The hull shape is well suited for heaving-to and this should be your first option when things get ugly.

The Baba 30 is a capable, high-quality cruising boat. Yes, it's on the small side, but that also makes it affordable. You can find a nice Baba 30 in the $60,000 range, and when you compare other cruising boats available for the same dollars the value becomes apparent. Plus, it's nice to have other sailors ooh and ahh every time you pull into a new harbor.

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Bluewater Sailboat – Baba 40

Also called: tashiba 40, panda 40, quicksilver 40, ta shing 40.

This classically designed full-keel double ender by Robert H. Perry’s design team originally went by the name Flying Dutchman 35, but it is now more commonly referred to as the Baba 35. One of Perry’s most attractive double-enders, it has exquisitely proportioned lines that make many people fall in love with it.  In terms of both size and flavor, she falls between the three Baba boats. The Bluewater Sailboat Baba 40 serves the role of the swift and opulent traveler, while the Baba 30, being the chubby go-anywhere liveaboard. 

Ta Shing, Taiwan’s top boatyard from the 1970s to 1980s, is the maker of all of these vessels. They have established a solid reputation for decency at sea, sturdy construction, and some of the highest-quality interiors available aboard cruising yachts even today.

• (AS PER TASHIBA 40 CATALOG)
• LOA: 39′ 11″ (excluding bowsprit) *
• LWL: 34′ 6″ *
• Beam: 12′ 10″
• Draft: 6″ 0″
• Displacement: 29,000 lbs.
• Ballast: 10,000 lbs. *
• Sail Area, Cutter: 865 sq. ft.
• Sail Area, Ketch: 910 sq. ft.
• Sail Area, Pilothouse: 848 sq. ft.
• Headroom: 6′ 5″
• Engine: Volvo MD21A Diesel
• Fuel, Cutter: 100 US. Gal.
• Fuel, Pilothouse: 125 US. Gal.
• Water, Cutter: 150 US. Gal. (85 port, 65 starboard)
• Water, Pilothouse: 200 US. Gal
• Year Introduced: 1980
• Year Ended: 1996
• Designer: Robert H. Perry
• Developer: Bob Berg (Quicksilver Corp.)
• Builder: Ta Shing, Taiwan
• * The Baba 40 catalog differs with LOA 39′ 10″ / LWL 36′ 3″ / Ballast 12,000 lbs. It is believed the Tashiba specifications listed here are more accurate.
• Also Known As: Tashiba 40, Panda 40, Quicksilver 40, Ta Shing 40

The Bluewater Sailboat Baba 40’s history actually begins with the Baba 30, which brought together the talents of three successful individuals: designer Bob Perry, developer Bob Berg, and Shing Sheng, a then-unknown Taiwanese boatyard. Shing Sheng began his ascent to dominance in the boatbuilding industry with the success of the Little Baba 30 and the Baba 35. They had changed their name to Ta Shing by 1979 and had relocated to a new, specially designed plant. In order to complete the range, Berg hired Perry to create a brand-new 40-foot model.

Perry was dissatisfied with simply improving his earlier Baba 35 design, which was a stretched version of the 30 in and of itself. Instead, Perry dusted off the lines of his renowned Valiant 40, whose radical fin keel and separate skeg-hung rudder had only five years earlier created the “performance cruiser” category, in search of increased boat speed. He created the Baba 40 by deriving a brand-new full keel design from the Valiant 40 hull form. The Baba 40 proved to be a significant improvement over early Babas, according to Perry, who described it as having a completely distinct stable personality. At first, it was stiffer, considerably faster, and perfectly balanced.

Tim Ellis, who was in charge of the project, remembers the harmonious collaboration between Berg’s development and administration, Perry’s design, and Ta Shing’s undeniable skills as a craftsman with nostalgia. He remembers Berg’s strict attention to detail.

“They created a work of exquisite artistry. During the time that Baba designs were being developed and built, Bob Berg made at least thirty or more trips to Taiwan, and he and I would spend hours, days, and even longer sitting on each yacht to perfect shapes, appearances, important and minor details, and fix the annoying problems that other less well-traveled people had. It was my responsibility to put Bob’s suggestions and corrections into practice. During each visit, my list of things may reach the hundreds, and on hull number one, it would likely be much, much longer. A weaker builder would have baulked since Bob left no room for doubt in the pursuit of his ideal.”

In 1980, the Baba 40 was made available to the public. Berg sold the yacht as the Panda 40 in 1983 after severing ties with the Flying Dutchman dealership, which had the Baba trademark. This moniker did not endure long, and in 1984, Ta Shing, who was then a major player in Taiwanese boat construction, began marketing the vessel on their own under the name Tashiba 40. There have been rumors that this was a play on the names “Ta Shing” and “Baba.”

There were 115 boats manufactured in all, and production ceased in 1996. Although hull numbers can be obtained up to #182, there is a space between #33 and #101.

Ta Shing finally established an exclusive partnership with the California-based PAEI, whose in-house designer was Al Mason. Sadly, several of Ta Shing’s molds, including the Baba 40, were destroyed when PAEI turned its concentration to motorboats years later.

The Baba 40’s lines trace their origins to classic Scandinavian double-enders. Under the waterline, the boat has a full keel with a cutaway forefoot. Like many other full keel designs by Perry, this one doesn’t have the customary “wine glass” portion blend where the keel meets the hull’s bilge. Both characteristics lessen wetted areas. The moderately beamy hull form provides adequate interior capacity. On most boats, a cutter rig and bowsprit combination are used, however, it’s thought that two boats had the option of being built as ketches. A pilothouse design, with its two cozy cabins, was another significant modification; roughly eleven pilothouses were constructed.

The Baba 40’s hand-laid GRP hull is solidly constructed; its thickness increases from 0.41″ at the topsides to 0.57″ at the waterline and 0.90″ at the keel. Both the deck and the cabin trunk are cored with high-density closed-cell foam and end-grained balsa. Though at least one boat was built with lead ballast, the ballast is cast iron and enclosed in GRP.

Under Berg’s strict supervision, the interiors were meticulously detailed, with many Taiwanese man-hours being spent. Berg was renowned for his ability to fit functionality into every available square inch of a boat. Perry also regarded it as one of his greatest, adding that the layout and workmanship are nearly flawless and seem “correct.”

A stateroom with a double seagoing quarter-berth is located on the starboard quarter. There is a well-designed U-shaped galley to port. A two-settee berth configuration with a pilot berth to port was available in the saloon as an alternative to offer more seaworthy accommodations. There is a double berth offset to port in the forward cabin. It has a spacious 6′ 5″ headroom.

Ta Shing claims that the Tashiba 40 boats featured less detailing due to cost-cutting initiatives, including less teak trim, fewer portlights, and no longer having butterfly hatches.

Performance

This Bluewater sailboat is a lot of fun to sail and has a lovely feel at the helm, especially as the breeze increases. Some owners have even had success racing their Baba 40s against contemporary fin keel rivals. Michael and Elizabeth Kramer in S.V. Cambria traveled 396 miles in 46 hours while broad reaching down the Sea of Cortez with 35 knots of wind, an outstanding average speed of 8.6 knots.

Owners frequently comment on how sturdy their Babas feel. The Baba 40 has the ability to continue sailing in bad weather when many other boats are heaving-to. This Bluewater Sailboat can encounter a tremendous amount of adverse weather, which is noteworthy. She might suffer breakages throughout such a journey but remain a sound sailboat.

Quick Notes

Have your surveyor inspect elements like chainplates and portions of balsa coring for rot, as is common with many boats older than 25 years. Since the original mild steel fuel tanks were found to be prone to corrosion, most Bluewater Sailboats have replaced them.

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• Hull Material Fiberglass
• LOA 30'

1978 Baba 30'

1978 Ta Shing Baba 30 Beautifully maintained Baba 30 ready to start your adventure! 2010 survey available for seriously interested parties. NEWer DECKS, NEWer ENGINE (both 2011).

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A classic Baba 30 is for sale in Langkawi, Malaysia! A rare find in this part of the world, she is vessel of charm, character and known sailing ability. This vessel has had only two owners since new. She has a long pedigree that places her among the best sailing crafts available in her size. The Robert Perry design is a guarantee for both grace and a sea kindliness, a vessel that is of a different epoch. Extra Budget II is a boat that is well suited for a couple or a young family that has an understanding and love for craftsmanship. The joy of being aboard a boat that will turn heads, keep out the weather and make you feel like part of sailing's true tradition- this is all assured with this special little vessel. She is a rare find in the Asian part of the world and she is ready for more adventure with a new and understanding owner who will care for her as the other two have. SPECIFICATIONS: Price: US $45,000 - negotiable Vessel Name: Extra Budget II Year:1979 Length:29' 9" - 9.07m Beam:10 ft 3 inch Draft: 4ft, 9 inch Displacement:12500lbs Keel / Ballast: Full keel with cutaway forefoot Vessel Location: Langkawi Island, Telaga Harbour Malaysia. Region: Asia Designer: Robert Perry Builder: Ta Shing boatbuilders, Taiwan Hull Material: Fiberglass/GRP Decks Material: Teak deck overlay over fiberglass deck/new in 2011 Engine: New 2011. Engine Make: Beta Horsepower: 30 hp Fuel Type: Diesel Engine Hours: Very low. Fuel Consumption: 3.5 liters per hour at correct cruising speed and RPM Max Speed:7.0 knots at 3,600rpm Cruise Speed:5.5- 6.0 knots 2,800 rpm Propulsion: Technodrive TMC 40 with Variprop, four blade prop 2011 Fuel:100 lt. steel tank Water:230 lt.- approx. steel tanks n.2 Dinghy: None Outboard: None Covers: Bimini 2017, Boat covers 2017, Hatch and porthole covers Accommodations Head room 6ft. 4in. Interior finish Teak and white. U shaped galley to port, chart table and nav station to starboard, open saloon with bulkhead foldup table, port and starboard settee berths, lockers and bins above each. The head is forward to starboard, leading to a spacious cabin area with a double V-berth with large lockers below and louvered shelves to port and starboard, all surrounded by teak inner planking. Cabins:1 Berths:4 berth. Shower: Exterior fresh-water shower Toilet: Yes Entertainment: DVD player with two speakers Galley: A compact and practical galley on the port side. Refrigeration: Ozefridge, frig/ freezer, 12v-eutectic plate, insulated custom built, spacious box. Stove:Broadwater, ss. 2 burner with oven Water-Maker: None Ground Tackle Anchors N. 2 Anchor Winch:SL 555, HD, manual Chain and Rope:300ft, hi-test, 5/6° Wrap/ 100 ft, 5/8th nylon Winches: Total of 9 Arco winches, N. 2 self /tailers new 2009 Bilge Pumps: N. 1 electrical new 2017, and N. 1 manual to be serviced Life Raft: Avon 4 man inspected in 2012 Life Jackets: None Flares: Need new ones Fire Protection:3 fire extinguishers, (Needing service) Electrics Both 240/12V Solar Panels: 3 Solar Panels / one old and two new Start Batteries: N. 1- 110 Amp House Batteries :N1- 120 Amp Electronics / Navigation GPS: yes VHF: Standard Horizon 2005 Depth sounder: PROBE forward looking sounder, 1996 Auto Pilot: No Sail Inventory N. 1 Main/ 1997, with lazy jacks and new coverN. 1 Genoa / 1997 Furlex roller furling, 2018 repaired and new blue UV protection added. And assortment of other sails for a total of 4, all in serviceable condition, all dating from 1997/95: Total sail area 504sq. Ft. Mast / Rigging Mast/ Rigging/ : 2004, Oversized Selden, Single spreader, anodized aluminum mast and boom, with jiffy reefing. Rigging ¼" and 5/16", with Stalok/Norseman fittings, all new 2004, Remarks: Full new engine, gear box, shaft and propeller 2011. Full hull gelcoat inspection, sanding, fairing and painting with 2 coats of Awlgrip primer, 3 coats of Awlgrip Oyster white paint. Painting of new Water Line and Cavita Line with International Perfection Paint. 2012. Bottom paint re-done in 2017, 2022 New teak deck 2011 See excerpt below from a Sailing Magazine review by the esteemed John Kretschmer: "A blue water beauty that was built to last” The Baba 30 is a small but serious cruising boat. And it certainly looks the part with a shapely canoe stern, springy sheer line and proud bowsprit. The Baba 30 pedigree arcs through Colin Archer's converted lifeboats of the 19th century to the famed Tahiti ketches that carried early cruisers around the world between wars. More recently, like many small double-enders that sprang to life in the 1970s, the Baba 30 was inspired by the stunning success of the Westsail 32. Baba 30 designer Bob Perry confesses that the Westsail was a role model of sorts for some of his early cruising designs..... If you're a traditionalist the Baba 30 will stir you. Nicely proportioned and laden with teak, the Baba 30 conjures visions of lush tropical islands. Close your eyes, can you see it, a lovely Baby 30 swinging at anchor in Cook's Bay, Moorea? Once aboard you realize that the Baba 30 isn't really a pocket cruiser. It's a big boat trapped in short body. The 12,500 pounds of displacement and 5,000 pounds of ballast are the telling figures. By way of comparison, other early full-keel 30-footers like the Alberg, Bristol and Cape Dory weigh considerably less. The rig is a classic cutter with 504 square feet of working sail area... The hull shape features a long bow overhang and gradual sloping forefoot that trails into a long keel section. The rudder is completely protected and the prop is housed in a small aperture. While the Baba 30 is at home in blue water, especially if it's blowing, it's a handful when backing into a slip under power. The hull is solid fiberglass, laid up to heavy scantlings. Supposedly the lamination schedule exceeded Lloyd's A-1 specs and some boats were built to Lloyd's 100-A1 and have the certificate to prove it. This process didn't require more fiberglass just more supervision. The deck is cored with either balsa or plywood, in either case end-grain sections were used to prevent the spread of core delamination caused by leaks.... Down below While the layout is predictable, the workmanship is remarkable. The interior fairly drips with teak. White mica surfaces in the galley are about the only areas below that are not finished in teak. It's impressive how well many of the 30s still look. This is a testament to excellent original construction and to building boats that didn't leak. Nothing spoils a handsome teak interior faster than leaky decks and overhead fittings. While the interior is a bit dark by today's standards, it's also warm and inviting in colder climates. There's good ventilation provided by two huge overhead hatches and opening bronze portlights. The layout features a U-shaped galley to port including double stainless sinks, a full-sized stove and oven and ample storage. This is a galley more likely found aboard a 36-foot cruiser. Opposite is a quarterberth that forms the seat for the nav station. This berth usually turns into a storage bin. The chart table is also well-sized with a couple of shelves above. The electrical panel is positioned so that it is easy to accidentally trip breakers when seated at the nav station, but this is easily corrected. There's also a draining wet locker to starboard of the companionway. " Read the full review at:http://sailingmagazine. Net/article-14-baba-30. Html http://bluewaterboats. Org/baba-30/ This Baba 30 is available for viewing by appointment. She is ready to set sail and is a beautiful classic style boat full of character and charm. Please contact me today for more information or a viewing.

SAILING CHARACTERISTICS

BABA-30 SAILING CHARACTERISTICS

(thanks to Charles Yingling for this document)

Going to Windward

Going to windward with Genoa and Main in less than about 6 knots of wind generates too much lee helm. The boat will not lie closer to the wind than 60 degrees. (A very light 180% Drifter Genoa might go in 2-6 knots). 8 to 10 knots balances the helm with Main and Genoa. This combination can be carried to at least 17 knots without strain, and with slight weather helm in more than 10 knots.

In the range from 12 to 17 knots there is very little difference between the drive of the Genoa and that of the Working Headsails. 15-18 knots requires a single reef with two headsails but the full Main may be carried with the Genoa. Beyond that point extensive shortening down is necessary. A single reef and Working Jib is sufficient in 15 to 25 knots. 22 to 30 knots of wind requires one reef and the Staysail. Two reefs will be necessary if the wind sustains 30 to 35 knots. Beyond 35 knots on the wind is the range of the Storm Trysail with the Staysail or Storm Jib.

For every sail combination there is a particular wind strength that gives a neutral helm. The point of balance depends on sail trim and sea state.

In flat seas:Genoa and Main ­ about 9 knots

All plain sail ­ about 12 knots

Jib and Main ­ about 15 knots

Jib and reef ­ about 18 knots

Staysail and reef ­ about 22 knots

Staysail and 2 reefs ­ about 28 knots

According to the books, a small weather helm is better than none at all to windward, so slightly more wind than is listed would be preferable. Head seas tend to counteract weather helm. The boat must be sailed rather full in a head sea with as much sail as may be shown without going rail down. (The engine at slow turns helps keep the way on when she starts to pitch). The angle of the seas to the course has a large effect on helm balance to windward. One tack may have lee helm while the other has weather helm.

While sailing to windward the Main should be sheeted flat and trimmed with the traveler, in all but less than 10 knots of wind. The traveler should be to windward of the centerline in light airs, with the sheet eased to increase the camber of the sail. The Main halyard should be eased in light airs to eliminate wrinkles parallel to the luff. Generally, the Main sets best with the boom at a 7 degree angle to the centerline (or less). It is not advantageous to pull the boom to windward of the centerline.

The Main alone does not provide much drive but it is cooperative on a number of points. Close to the wind, the boat will find a course to suit whatever weather helm is provided. Care should be taken not to allow the course to wander too far off the wind, as this might cause a sudden change of status.

The Main should be trimmed with the traveler down to 60 degrees off the wind, and secured with a vang at greater angles. The Main must be sheeted almost amidships while close reaching with a reacher, due to backwind.

Reaching and Running

In less than about 12 knots of relative wind the Reacher is our best sail for reaching and running. It may be carried to 60 degrees by sheeting flat and allowing the tack to rise slightly.

In less than about 6 knots of wind, the Reacher will fly alone with 150-180 degrees of apparent wind. However, this sail is almost impossible to take down without the full Main to blanket it. If the Main is hoisted on a run or broad reach the battens will foul on the lower and intermediate shrouds unless someone pulls the leech aft as the main is hoisted. In any case, a sharp weather eye is useful while flying the Reacher alone.

The Reacher benefits from the pole on beam and broad reaches, as well as wing-and-wing. Sheeted well out and high on the tack, the Reacher will fly on the same side as the Main to about 150 degrees relative wind. Beyond this point it will be blanketed unless the Main is jibed. On a run the Reacher fills best with the Main slightly by the lee (less than 10 degrees). The helm is somewhat sluggish on a run. Large lee helm may be generated by the Reacher on reaching courses in light winds. This lee helm is also present, but less powerful, with other headsails.

The combination of full Main and Reacher will cause a broach in more than about 15 knots of relative wind. If the wind should increase beyond this strength, the Main must be brought to the same side as the Reacher. Run directly down wind to blanket the Reacher. If it will not empty, rig a snatch block at the mast end of the pole track (on front of mast). Lead the lazy sheet through this block and pull the clew inboard. Secure the clew end of the lazy sheet to the staysail halyard cleat on the mast. When the Reacher is empty, gather it in along the foot as it is lowered away.

Extreme weather helm is developed by rolling in a following sea. This condition is aggravated by the Reacher and Full Main. With the other headsails the Full Main may be carried to about 18 knots of relative wind, broad off. It should be stressed that the Reacher will not blanket behind a reefed Main. about 15 knots relative does not appreciably reduce speed and it relieves the weather helm. The single reef balances better with bothWorking Jib and Staysail, but the Jib does not draw well beyond about 130 degrees relative wind. The Jib alone with the single reefed Main will fly to about 150 degrees relative wind.

The Working Jib poled to windward with Main and Staysail to leeward allows a point of 150-160 degrees relative. There is some weather helm at 8-12 knots but this can be somewhat eased by oversheeting the Staysail. Without the pole, the Working Jib is very tender wing-and-wing. It will fly only when the Jib is between 0 to 5 degrees by the lee. The Genoa poled out wing-and-wing with the Main draws best on this same point and is well behaved in this range. The pole is most useful when the spare halyard is used as a topping lift. (We need to middle a long line and make a snap shackle fast at the center to use as permanent fore and aft guys).

Heavy Weather Notes:

The critical area of yaw when rounding up seems to be between 150 and 120 degrees relative wind. The yaw accelerates quite rapidly due to increased heel. This is aggravated by gusting winds and quartering seas. Large amounts of weather helm are usually needed to counter this. If the boat is run off beyond 150 degrees the amount of weather helm is reduced and the rudder must be eased to prevent a jibe. Most of the turning force is generated by the Mainsail. The Genoa alone has not been tried in more than 8 knots relative wind but it is doubtful that it can be flown in more than about 22 knots.

In winds over 35 knots the Working Jib alone is a real driver. So far the Staysail alone has not been tried nor has the Storm Jib or any combination with the Trysail. The double reefed Main also offers possibilities.

BOB PERRY COMMENTS

Deetgnerre Commentg BABA30 be the inaglcn length. AnythLng ahorter than 30r ls Thtrty feet aeemsto unless you are ul'lllng to make come too anall for a long dlatancE erulserp r€atou! cqmpronlaeeln your comfort. At *t:af reef can do ftre.dealgner four ?ul'I length bertha'and an encl'oaed r rrther'uorkablb gllleyl gt leaat head _r lht ona rell danger, for the deaignerl at thle length lc lhat tfrire nay the yacht too,tlght' The tayetFgei cruLaer./racar' at be a tcndrney to lake around ?1000 lbs. Thig lr fLhe lor ahort about titf"tf fect relghs ln today et ueakend trlpa and dayaalllng, but relatlng thla dlaplacement to an lcconpanying lnterior epece you ulll' ftnd that the light Vacftt la rerloualy volums'gf evatlabtb mechanlcal similtude aays that the dlaprasemsnt short:of ato.uaggepaceo The lau of or volumeof a yacht'uarles'.' eg the cube of the rrlaterllne. In slmpler ternal taPtdlY ae the this means that the aveilable storrlageand tank space decreages a rather beany rrraterlina tength of the yecht decreaseg. I chQee!o'deatgn of 3?9' This rf?orded double qr.rder,ith the healthy dlaplacemEnt tollangtn'satlo l' me the lnterlor volune.!e Oo a uery comfortablg layout. I see lt as a p€asonsl challenge to take a type of yachtl ln thlc caae I the hull llner to rElatively heavy, tradltlonql doubla endar, and uork ulth a knot ln apeed out of the dealgn'that t canl I atnply FlnE:. 3v€ty tenth of tltt.s ultl be algu.r I have do not resign'myself to a tradl.tlonal deglgn. It gl.uen lhe BABi 30 an aaally drlven hutl utth a prlematic coEfflclant df '50' ghould help take care of lhe performance J.n ltght alr' The hull haa Thie to enhange etabillty and alao provlde e coneldeiable flair to tha topeldas dry ride to ueather. The run of the'buttockp la conaderalle nore fl.rt than the ,Colin type.. Thia should elfuninate the Ennqylng hobbyhoraelng tradltlonal Archer; cqrved auay the garboard tendanclgs of that type and alao lnp,rova apeed. I'hauc this type of dealgn; |n an ef?qrt to naxlnlze the area, ag I have before ln keel rfini ?or a glven anount of overall draft. Thls feature helps availablq the garboards !,here lt lg vcry hard elimlnaib upeleaa added dlaplecement ln use and lt eleo lnproves the stabllity curve of thc yacht. to afflclently the ft?th deaign of thla general type that I hava donal ln the The BA8A30 la general model. Iast three yEarr, and t feet it le a reflnenent o? the 04* sgAvrEW AVE.N.\il / SElLrTJ4ffi wrsl / 2iJa'782',oo33 f­ RM/gRTtr{'"PJSRRY YACWI| Di.sSlGlVlElR BABA30...Oseignerrs c o m m B n t s c o n t . comfortable cruising The accomodatlons have been laid out for a small family uith lack of ncrammitian. ln alnd. The most noteurorthyfeature is the overalf very rthumanlyrt The conoonents of the lnterior are all .sized and should uork U-shapedulith an 'enormousice-box opposlte double very uell. The ,9o11eyis Thc thrco burner glmbalod stove gimbals Eo 50 degraea. The rea! o? the lln&1. You might note that thEre ia a uci lgcker layout lg rrthir ,qflfexplanatory. ,r?t tnd Inothi.r, qii$gfng locker folurard. The head is quite spacious for a yacht i:Of Headroomis 6r4r' throughout. There la B0 gallons these overallldiacnsions. .fi#';" :'of ttre settee berths and 36 gallons of fuel under the ryatar located"#iiid|i i t .t, cabln rolg. .. ; i',, i. the paatl th! oue to the success that I have had utilizing the cutter r19 in BABAg0 uas designed rrrith a ta.II cutter rig. The saiJ. area to diplacement ratio Ls 14.9?. trjhile this may be vieured as a relatiuely lour figurel it ls my contention that at this size, 30 feet, the use oi a 150F genoa ie not rrrouldopt for a highef, sail acea to digPlacement prohibitive. 0n a larger design I dont think many figure to eliminate the need of ganoas cprnpletelY. Houlever, I people r,lill object to handtimg the genoa on a thirty foot yacht. fly aim in the design of this rig uras to design a rig compatable trith the huII I had designed in maximumperformsflceo This is partly.rrrhy I did not chosB a terms of deriving ketch rig. I am trying to optimize the,indr.rard capability of thia tlpe of \ yacht and I feel the cutter does that job the best, in the cruielng appllcation. the 'ehape in Again, the challenge is. to take a traditional type and modify a manner that rrlill not denegrate the parent model and at the same tima not gubslanflally improving destroy the ffromanceno? the traditional look uhile the sailing perfornallcBo The .result. is a yacht, the BABA30t that is not a ncute cartoonrt but a really capable offshore cruising yacht.

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Beam:  11.17'    Draft:  5.5'     Beam:  11'    Draft:  5.5'     Beam:  10'3'    Draft:  4'9' © 2001-2024 ./)   . . ./)   . . JavaScript seem to be disabled in your browser. You must have JavaScript enabled in your browser to utilize the functionality of this website. Edwards Yacht Sales 866.365.0706 1981 Baba 30 cutter Melbourne, FL, US Yacht price Email Broker Call Broker With canoe stern and cutaway full keel this Bob Perry design has won acclaim as one of the most desirable blue water pocket cruisers. She was built in the Ta-Shing boat yard in Taiwan which is one of the top boat building facilities in the world. They currently make Nordhavens.  In the past six years the owner to the Baba 30 has sailed the Caribbean along Central America coasts, the Leewards Islands down to Trinidad, up to chain to the Virgin Islands, over to Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic, thru the Bahamas and back to Florida.  The Yanmar 3YM30 (870 hrs) was new in 2008, new aluminum fuel tank and 2 stainless water tanks in 2009, new Ocean Breeze AC installed in 2010, has Norcold refrigeration that runs on 12VDC or 110VAC and lots more. Specifications Descriptions, basic information, dimensions & weight. View Option Engine Brand: Yanmar Model: 3YM30 Fresh Water Cooled new in 2008 Total Power: 29 HP Transmission:  Kanzaki KM2P-1 Propeller:  3 Blade Bronze 14" PSI Dripless Shaft Log Cruise: 6 knots at 2800 rpm, 5.5 knots at 2200,  Fuel Consumption: 1/3 GPM at 2000 rpm, 1 GPH at 3000 rpm LOA: 34.5 feet LOD: 29'11" LWL: 24'6" Beam: 10'3" Draft: 4'9" Modified Full w/rudder hung on keel w/protected propeller Displacement: 12,500 lbs Ballast: 5,000 lbs FUEL: New 25 Gallon Aluminum Tank in 2009 WATER: 2 stainless tanks total 80 gallons (60/20)  HOLDING: 13 Gallon w/ Y Valve Forward V berth sleeps two Starboard Settee sleeps one Ocean Breeze AC w/heat coil new in 2010 Diesel or Kerosene Heater Full Head and shower with hot and cold pressurized water Marble counter w/stainless sink in head 6 Gal hot water heater new in 2010 Teak and Holley sole Teak Bulkheads Drop down dinette table 5 over head lights / 4 LED reading lights 9 bronzed opening ports 2 hatches w/ one butterfly in salon 2 dorages for added ventilation Norcold Refrigeration runs both 12 VDC or 110VAC Seaward 3 burner propane stove w/oven  Dual Stainless Sinks Pressurized Hot and Cold Water Storage with drawers and shelves Emerson Microwave Oven Garmin 498C GPS Chartplotter at Helm in Pod SE Florida and Bahamas chip Simrad AP16 Auto Pilot w/AC10 AP computor and JEFA15 Drive Standard Horizon Quest + VHF w/DSC at Nav Station RAM Mike at Helm Furuno GPS Navigator @ Nav Station Raytheion R10 Radar at Nav Station 15" LCD Flat Panel TV on swivel bracket in Salon Magnavox DVD Player Dual CD/AM/FM Stereo Receiver w/speakers  Ritchie 5" compass at helm 110 VAC Shore Power connection 12 VDC and 110VAC control panel Four 6 volt Deep Cycle House Batteries for House Bank One Group 31 Starting Battery Promarine 10A Charger 2 bank Two 80W Solar Panels w/Zantrex C35 amp controller Jabsco Pump deep in bilge Rule 80 GPH for shallow bilge Battened Main Sail w/2 reefing points 135% Head Sail on Shaefer 2100 roller furler Hank on yankee cut staysail Hank on storm staysail Spinnaker w/ ATN Sock and Pole Two Barient #23 Self Tailing winches for jib sheets One Barient #19 Self Tailing winch for Main One #10 winch on boom for reefing Beautiful Teak seating throughout Stainless framed Dodger new in 2008 Stainless framed Bimini w/ side curtains new in 2008 Lifelines new in 2012 Weather clothes around cockpit Magma Propane Grill off Stern Rail Pedestal Wheel Steering w/Captains wheel Autopilot, GPS and RAM mike on Helm Henderson Manual Bilge Pump Dual Anchor Roller Two 35 lb Delta Anchors Sampson Post 300 feet 3/8 chain (primary) 200 feet 3/8 chain (secondary) Bronze manual windlass Presented by Kevin welsh 12 listing(s). 321.693.1642 727.449.8222 View Profile Manufacturer Length Range Length Range Year Range Year Range Price Range Price Range QUICK SEARCH BY: Buyer services, featured yacht. 2008 Sea Ray 47 Sedan Bridge 2000 Manta Mark II 2019 Monachus Issa 45 2007 Meridian 391 Sedan 2005 Jefferson Rivanna 50 SDMY 1985 Ocean Yachts 55 Super Sport 2005 Island Packet 485 1985 Morgan 31 Off Shore Fishing Cuddy 2002 Linssen 470 Grand Sturdy 2002 American Tug Pilothouse 2023 Robalo R302 Center Console 1981 Hatteras 48 Motor Yacht 2005 Carver 53 Voyager 2007 Sea Ray Sundancer 40 1996 Tiara Yachts 3500 Express Google Plus Boats For Sale Brokerage Services Sold Yachts Whether you are buying or selling your next boat or your first boat, one of Edwards Yacht Sales 45+ Professional Yacht Brokers throughout the Southeast are here to assist. 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