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WA, 3519 posts

Anyone sailed one of those? I am looking at one! Advice please!

NSW, 7568 posts

felixdcat said... Anyone sailed one of those? I am looking at one! Advice please! I have never sailed one but there is one in town here. I have watched it sail into the river and I'm impressed by how well it sails and manoeuvres. Tacks fast for a mono hull and is close winded. Makes a lot of sense as a trailer sailer.

VIC, 672 posts

Only downside is interior room.Get in it and lie in the bunks.Other than that get it.I have a tt720 and would struggle to go back to mono hull trailer sailing.

Yes it is a bit small in there! Has a nice bed under the deck toward the back. How does it handle gusty wind and choppy water?

little bit wet.but just goes quicker in the gusts.Take it for a test.

QLD, 2246 posts

Got a clicky link for it felix ?

Plenty of room for hobbits.And they dont like weight aswell.Best bet is to get in and lie down.It is easy to say looking at pictures but i dont fit in my wing berths (length)leaving me to sleep in the rear berth.Its 23ft long but would have the same room as an 18ft mono trailer sailer. There is a good forum on yahoo.Link it from f-boats website.

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QLD, 12323 posts

From what I have heard the 680 sounds to be a better boat than the 720. I don't think you could go wrong at the price but it shouldn't hurt to throw an $8,000 offer at them. It is a BUYERS market.

The 680 is a bit more user friendly with the aft cabin.As the 720 has the weight of the crew to far back.Which is fine if your cruising but when your racing makes a difference.But when i race we sit out on the amas(pontoons) any way. The 680 is a great first tri and i have been watching the one you are looking at and it seems to be a great buy.I have watched it come down from 15 k over the last year.People usualy get a 680 then 720 for the bigger rig and space inside.Then they go even bigger but they never seem to go back to monos.Their is atleast one of every size on the gippy lakes where i sail and i have crewed on all of them.

Re:- Rail or road. I don't know what the economics of it would be but many years ago I had a car railed from Brisbane to Cairns. The locomotive was diesel powered and the car travelled without a cover. The diesel soot got into the paint work and knackered it. Absolutely would not wash off. It was an old car so I just wet sandpapered it off and gave it a polish. Be warned!!!

Prob best to pick it up yourself.I drove to Bundaburg from Victoria to pick up mine.(always a bit of bargaining tool)Same goes putting it on a truck, although i would say not as bad as a train re diesel soot. Put a post on Trailer sailer place.Or maybe give duckflat wooden boats a call they might know someone in the area.

Felix, talk to Perth based trucking companies as they may have a back load system for moving it back to Perth. Can end up half the freight price.

planesailing

WA, 380 posts

Looks GOOD !! ENJOY.

Thats awesome mate! Meant to be aswell, you got the better boat and it was close to home.Heaps of photos and advice on groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/TrailerTris/info .If you do have to get a new trailer stick with tandem as my single axle was hard to get rated tyres for the weight. And check your tramps out real good,plenty of stories of people going thru them.Havent been to the west coast on mine yet but it is a trip in the future.Also you can get the plans on cdrom for her from queensland multi hull club.for about thirty dollars delivered(maybe 40)

Thats a bargain mate!Yeah know what you mean by the mast length.Bit overwhelming after the 680's.What size outboard has she got? If your anything like me you wont be bothered taking vids, or forget, having so much fun!Guess thats a pastime for people who like watching themselves in the mirror.Enjoy!

fantastic mate - always sweet to see someone getting joy out of a "new toy" regards - D

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