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Catamaran for beach: Hobie Wave/Getaway or something else?
Some family members are building a home on the beach in Florida (Gulf side) and they'd like to get a beach cat to keep there for the occasional jaunt into the Gulf. They are beginners and probably won't sail it much themselves, but want to have it for visitors, most of whom (like me) will probably be intermediate-at-best sailors. After some initial poking around ( this thread was particularly helpful ), the Hobie Wave seems like the leading contender. It's simple, light, and has those tough rotomolded hulls. I like the idea of the Getaway to take out multiple people at once (something tough to do with the Wave), but given that there will likely be times when only one adult is sailing, I'm concerned that at 400lbs the Getaway may be too heavy to haul to the beach and too hard to right after capsizing. Are there other viable options for a boat that will likely spend most of its time sitting in the dune grass on the beach? I've thought about looking for a used Hobie 16, but I think it's worth paying a bit more for the Wave/Getaway's more-durable hulls and anti-turtling mast bobs (although a dolly and an aftermarket anti-turtle bob might make a used 16 a viable option). Are there other beach cat manufacturers out there, or is Hobie pretty much it? Anything else to consider?
I say go with the the Getaway. You should be able to pick one up used for a good price.... Now if you really want to impress the kids get a Hobie 18 or Nacra. Both of which are fast and fun. ALthough you could pick up a used Hobie 16 for less than 500 and add a bob for 100. (or just mount a fender to the top of the mast) No matter what yall get... just sail it and bring the kids on it. My kids love our Hobie 18 and are always asking to take a friend with them. Todd
I've read in a couple places that the Getaway is hard for a single adult to right. How hard is it? And how hard would it be to pull the Getaway down to the water through a hundred or so yards of dunes? Would a single adult be able to do it with a catamaran dolly? I have zero experience with catamarans on beaches (my sailing has all been on dinghies and small cats that sit right at lakeside or big pre-rigged monohulls that dock in a marina) so I apologize if this is a stupid question.
themicah said: I've read in a couple places that the Getaway is hard for a single adult to right. How hard is it? Click to expand...
Beach cats are easy to move along the beach using beach wheels... I have moved my Hobie 18 alone several times. As far as righting the cat after its flipped... yes their is a technique to right it but it is not hard. If you have a "bob" on the mast the righting will be very easy. Check out the following sites for a little info...: Catsailor.com Forums - Forums powered by UBB.threads™ Hobie Cat Forums • Index page TheBeachcats.com - Catamaran Sailing Texas City Dike Yacht Club | Dedicated to all who sail the muddy waters of Galveston bay Hobie 18 Social Network ALso once you are in the beach area try to find the local Yacht club. They may have a few used cats forsale.
The rotomolded hulls are generally tougher, but if they get a hole, they are irreparable. I don't know all the science involved, but repairs won't stick to the plastic used for those hulls. The local Hobie rental outfit near me switched to the 16 for lessons, but he still does use Waves for rentals. YMMV.
I owned both H16's and an H18 before buying my lead sled. I also did demo sails and new owner training for the Getaway. Go for the H16. You can have3 adults (thogh very crowded) on it, it sails fast, there are thousands of used ones waiting for some one to buy them, and they can take a beating. I like the fiberglass hulls better because you can repair any damage that may happen and they do not flex as much as the rotomolded hulls. Hobie crosslinks the plastic in the hull mold for the Getaway. This means that you will not be able to heat or chemically weld any more material to the hulls. So, if you have a big gouge in the hull, you will not be able to repair it. Getaways are heavy for thier size compared to the H16 or the H18. With the H16 if it is windy enough to capsize it is windy enough to right the boat solo. On a dolly the H16 is very easy to move up and down the beach. The H18 is tough to pull up a beach on a dolly. I am a sizeable guy at 6'2" and 260lbs and I had trouble over long distances. In summary I say the H16 because it is affordable, fun, easy to sail single handed or with two others on board, and they are solid boats.
Nacra 500 or 570. Simple, fast, repairable.
Personally, I lost all respect for Hobie when they switched from catamarans to ... ... beach toys. Although I may change my tune if I can find a ride on a Wildcat. What I saw looked very intersting. Buy a used 16, 17, or 18. Much better sailors. Or for that matter a Prindle 16 will be lighter and easier to haul (320 pounds). Beach wheels work if it is pretty level and flat. Otherwise, with 2 people they can manage a lot. Whether they are hard to right depends on many variables; weather (actually easier when it's blowing), size of the person, the boat, and whether the mast gets water in it. All are simple with 2 people. I like the Hobie 17 or the Prindle 16 for ease by a single sailor (160 pound minimum).
all of the advice to get an H16 comes from people who already know how to sail. I too like the 16's better but they are bad boats for a complete beginner. They WILL overpower them. They WILL capsize them. They WILL have trouble getting them upright again. I got a Hobie Wave for the visitors at my house for three reasons 1. Though you cant repair plastic, it is pretty nearly bulletproof and wont need repairs. I have had a wave for 5 years and it is pretty near impossible to break the plastic hulls. Believe me, my teenage son and his friends tried and if it were easy they would have done it. 2. It is very forgiving for new sailors. No boom means they can't kill themselves (unlike an H16 or the others like it) and it is hard to capsize - it has more buoyancy than the fiberglass boats do. There is a good reason that this is the boat the resorts rent out. 3. It is fast. Maybe not as fast as a 16 but plenty fast for a beginner (or for me most of the time) with the added benefit that a Wave can go out in winds that would keep the 16's on the beach. It is an inherently safer boat. As for righting it, get a collapsible canvas bucket to add weight. And do get beach wheels. You will want them. A getaway would be impossible without and a wave difficult. and if it were up to me, i would get two waves instead of one getaway. then you can race!
While I can't agree that that all of the posters suggesting Hobies... had sailed before; I suspect many of them, myself included learned on a Hobie 16 (a Prindle 16 was my first boat, not counting a 2 hour rental on a Sunfish). That said, I'm not sure cats are a good choice in general. If there isn't enough wind to power them up--and they don't come to life until you can get one hull light in the water--they aren't much fun. If there is enough wind, they are really for people who want to sail with gusto. I would start asking about small monohulls, like the Laser and Sunfish; they are popular for good reasons. I would NOT be comfortable letting a non-cat sailor borrow a beach cat on a breezy day. Most rentals shut down if there is enough wind (more than 10 knots) to be interesting. Better yet, have then sail on the intracoastal side. They've no business on the Gulf or Ocean unless they KNOW they can right the boat. I should have read the OP more closely.
I have sailed the Wave, Getaway and the Hobie 16 out of the sailing center I am a member of. Based on your implication that the people sailing the boat will not likely get into sailing, the Wave is probably the best choice of the three. Wave: Simple to rig and sail and it can easily handle three adults or two adults and two children. I have seen two kids capsize this boat (160# total crew weight,) but it is generally very difficult to put this boat on its side. If someone develops even a remote interest in sailing well, (s)he will quickly get frustrated with the boat's lack of sail adjustments. Getaway: Also easy to rig, but as you surmised it's too heavy for one person to manhandle on the beach. The mainsheet traveller allows for better sail control, and multiple clew positions allows you to tune the sails for different wind conditions (and of course you can always furl the jib if things get harry or only one person will be sailing.) I capsized once and found the boat impossible to right by myself but two could right it easily. Hobie 16: This boat is much faster than either of the other two and more technical with jib sheet block tracks, battons in the jib, and an outhaul on the main. I'd hesitate to allow a beginner to sail this boat alone. I haven't capsized this one so I can't say much about it in that regard.
We went to Belize, and the resort had Hobie Waves available for visitors to use. They're simple, relatively cheap, and pretty difficult to damage. Belize is built on coral, and repairing anything takes months, not weeks, so they have to have things that will hold up to abuse from careless guests. My background in Solings made me disappointed by the performance, but that's the tradeoff. Those suggesting a Hobie 16 are headed in a performance direction, but what are you going to do when your guest zips off five miles before he capsizes and starts drifting towards Cozumel, just when you've mixed the marqueritas?
I learned to sail on an H16 with no experience. I can rig and right one solo. Granted I am not a small guy (6'2" 230lbs when I owned the boat) but there are several inexpensive aids (righting line) and some easy to learn techniques to right them. $1000 - $2000 will buy you a decent used one. The Hobie forum is very helpful (wish they were around when I started sailing) and almost anywhere you see boats someone has sailed an H16 so getting help and advice is easy. I plan to get one for my daughter when she is old enough... OK it's for me too. I think it helped me become a better mono sailor since I had to fully understand sail trim and think ahead of the boat or uncomfortable things would happen. The best part is the thrill of flying a hull while trapping out. You just don't get that feeling on any mono dinghy. If you decide to go for a used H16, pm me and I will be glad to share some advice on what to look for. Also, take a look at the hobie forum and they will be glad to help. I find beach cat sailors to be the most friendly and helpful around. I even saw experience racers helping a rookie to tune his boat.
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Just to get idea how looks like real diversity of inflatables. I have sailed some, but cannot compare them with Tornado or Nacra Inter 18. Rigid boats are much more fun (IMHO) for sail but PIA to travel, if you have not trailer. And I had not.
The main reason of inflatables in ex-USSR is ease of transportation by car, train or airplane. For example, we travelled with such boat from Russia to Ukraine by train in 2012 without any problems.
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Just to get idea how looks like real diversity of inflatables. I have sailed some, but cannot compare them with Tornado or Nacra Inter 18. Rigid boats are much more fun (IMHO) for sail but PIA to travel, if you have not trailer. And I had not.
The main reason of inflatables in ex-USSR is ease of transportation by car, train or airplane. For example, we travelled with such boat from Russia to Ukraine by train in 2012 without any problems.
As concerns to Minicat, it looks too primitive by accepted standards.
I somewhat agree with you ... but ... I think fun is a relative term. For pure high performance a Nacra would certainly be faster etc ... just as a Ferrari would ... for pure performance. But then you couldn't drive your ferrari on dirt roads or pothole roads, or speed bumps, and you can't take it shopping or camping or pull a trailer behind it.
I think having a portable inflatable boat will give you more time on the water and increase your overall enjoyment ... sure the Nacra may be a little more thrilling for the one or two sessions you can find crew etc ... but all the hassles and cost of owning, transporting and stowing a rigid boat means you sail much much less.
Before getting into inflatables there were so many times going camping trips etc or travelling that I wished I had a sailboat on hand. How many days were too windy to kayak ro SUP or swim ... or sailing under a beautoful sunset with a great partner... i hated missing all those opportunities much more than i ever enjoyed the few moments i enjoyed on a high end Cat.
So fun being a relative thing i like being able to sail anywhere ... don't get me wrong i love having those thrill rides on a high performance cat but for those I prefer doing a quick day session on a friend's boat and prefer owning a boat I can sail pretty much anywhere and any time.
The last thing is ease of sailing, safety and cost of ownership. Those other boats need alot of skills and in some cases extreme athleticism and physical prowess ... a boat like a mincat is fun for experienced sailors but very good for less experienced or less physically gifted sailors ... even for kids or seniors... because its so light and easy to maneuver and right etc... not to mention that owning a rigid boat has a higher cost of ownership to store, maintain etc... For me the more i thought about it and rationalized it the more I came to inflatables. I love living in a Condo and having a sailboat in my Den. When I get into the elevator people are always blown away when i tell them its a sailboat in a bag!
Im really hoping MinCAT comes out with a sailing foil in the future!
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 The International Hobie TigerThe Tiger was Hobie’s design entry into the newly created Formula 18 class. Born from the very first F18, the Alado 18 and designed by Jacques Valer, the Tiger quickly established itself as the premier F18 platform. Manufactured by Hobie Cat Europe and introduced in 1995, the Tiger was the boat to beat during its dominant 10 year run. Introduction and HistoryWith the F18 class already huge in Europe, it wasn’t until 2001when the first Tiger landed in the US.The Tiger was then selected for the 2002 US Multihull Championship (Alter Cup) in Syracuse, NY.After the Alter Cup event, the boats were eventually sold, seeding the northeast area and effectively kicking off the Tiger class in North America.Originally designated as a one design class by the ISAF and the Hobie Class Association it soon became apparent and too difficult to control the many changes of the evolving F18 class.F18’s conform to a box rule and are not a true one design class…allowing for design changes and innovations while maintaining strict control over materials and dimensions.The Tiger continued to be upgraded and win major events.Then in 2004 the Capricorn F18 was introduced…a game changer on which all current F18 designs are based.Although no longer in production at this time the Tiger is still very popular globally (approximately 2700 manufactured) and is up for consideration as the multihull for the 2016 Olympics along with the Hobie 16.Tigers continue to be raced competitively to this day at HCANA and North American F18 events with its most recent win at the 2010 Canadian F18 National Championship. Boat WeightThe International F18 rules state that boats must weigh a minimum 180 kg (396 lbs) full up.Typically Tigers were coming from the factory between 180 kg (396 lbs) and 184 kg (405 lbs).Some boats were lighter requiring corrector weights as necessary to bring the boat up to the minimum weight.Boat corrector weights are affixed to the port side and any crew corrector weights (see Crew Weight) are attached to starboard…both usually on the dolphin striker.The crew corrector weights must be visible and removable. Crew WeightThis is the beauty of the Formula 18 class.F18’s use a graduated weight scale and sail plan size depending on crew weight.This levels the competitive playing field and helps equalize boat performance – relying more on the crew’s sailing ability and boat handling skills.The crew consists of 2 persons with the minimum combined crew weight being 115 kg (253 lbs).The crew shall use the sail plans (as defined in the International F18 rules paragraph G.2.3) in accordance with the following weight categories: (1) Crew between 115 kg (253 lbs) and 130 kg (286 lbs) shall sail with the small jib and small spinnaker and then shall carry extra weight equal to half the difference between their actual weight and 130 kg (286 lbs). (2) Crew between 130 kg (286 lbs) and 140 kg (308 lbs) shall sail with the small jib and the small spinnaker and shall not carry extra weight. (3) Crew in between 140 kg (308 lbs) and 150 kg (330 lbs) may use the large jib and the large spinnaker and then shall carry extra weight equal to half the difference between their actual weight and 150 kg (330 lbs). (4) Crew weighing 150 kg (330 lbs) and over may use the large jib and the large spinnaker without carrying any extra weight. The F18 class utilizes two different size sail plans depending on the weight scale above. Small sail plan dimensions: Jib – 3.45 m2 Main – 17 m2 Spinnaker – 19 m2 Large sail plan dimensions: Jib – 4.15 m2 Main – 17 m2 Spinnaker – 21 m2 Typically the all-round optimum Tiger crew weight is 340 to 360 lbs and uses the large sails. Sailing CharacteristicsThe Tiger was designed with breeze in mind.Upwind performance is smooth and confident.Be prepared for lots of double trap time and keeping the boat in a balanced trim.In light conditions crew weight should be forward to the front crossbar and split…crew on the low side and skipper on the high.This is to help keep those buoyant bows in the water and helps raise the sterns.As the wind speed increases the crew moves to the high side and onto the trapeze when needed.Double trapping usually starts in winds above 9 mph.Playing the mast rotation and downhaul will keep the boat flat and powered up when going to weather in breeze.The downwind crew positions are similar to upwind…forward and split in light conditions, high side and aft as the wind builds.As the wind increases the skipper should keep the boat in “wild thing” (flying the hull downwind) mode.This is a balancing act dependent on crew position and a very fast way to sail downwind.As the wind continues to increase…the crew will transition to the high side and eventually to the trapeze with both skipper and crew moving aft.Downwind the Tiger is more forgiving because of the increased buoyancy in the bow and the lift provided by the spinnaker.You can push it harder downwind without fear of pitchpoling, turning downwind for control and stability.This is counterintuitive to a non-spin boat where you would turn upwind to lower the hull.Turn upwind with a spin up and you will go swimming.But downwind is where the boat struggles against the newer planning hull designs.The Tiger does not plane and is not as fast as the Wildcat downwind in a blow.But the gentle rocker of the symmetrical hulls makes for easier going in rough conditions.Steering has a bit of a “heavy” feel to it compared to the Wildcat.Upwind both the Tiger and Wildcat have comparable speed.In light conditions the boats are fairly equal both upwind and downwind.The mast is stout (tear drop section vs. the Wildcat’s wing section) and is not prone to excessive bending (twist off at the top) when the spin is up in breeze.This is where having the 10:1 main sheet system is really nice. Production ChangesThere have been many changes/upgrades to the Tiger over its lifetime.This was done to keep the Tiger competitive with the latest developments within the F18 class.At its inception the Tiger had pinhead mainsail, 8:1 main sheet system, roller furling jib, manual jib cleats on the front crossbar (like the Hobie 16) and a tramp launched spinnaker bag set up.The original trampoline design was attached to the hull and exited from the bottom of the front crossbar.The boom was a rectangular tube borrowed from the Hobie 20. Then came the first wave of changes…self tacking jib, square top mainsail (ST), round tube booms and early versions of spinnaker snuffers both bag/sock type and hard trumpets.The second wave of changes included carbon foils, bigger square top main (STX), fully battened jibs, suspension tramps (detached from the hull) exiting from the top of the front crossbar, flatter cut spinnakers and spin block relocation on the hull deck.The third wave consisted of redesigned rudders and increasing the stand-off of the gudgeons, 10:1 mainsheet system, Pentax jibs (formally Dacron), removal of the roller furling system to a one piece forestay, refined bag/ring snuffer systems, the addition of sissy blocks and lowering the bridle tangs from the hull deck rail to mid-hull.During all these changes and upgrades, the hull design, crossbars and mast remained the same. Modifications for RacingAlthough the Tiger was race ready out of the box, several go fast and convenience modifications are recommended.Older Tigers have a glue seam overlap that caused a ½” wide ridge to run the entire length of the keel.Racers filed this ridge off and then applied gelcoat.Later year production boats had this removed at the factory.The spinnaker blocks on the hulls were moved forward from behind the daggerboard well to just in front.This is an easy upgrade and is necessary for properly trimming the newer, flat cut spinnakers.“Sissy” blocks should be added to the front crossbar to aid in spinnaker sheet purchase.Originally there was only one set of spin blocks (on the hull mentioned earlier) which made flying the spin very fatiguing for the crew.The spinnaker sheet does not have any cleats and is hand held.If your Tiger does not have a self tacking jib, install one.Set it and forget it.Retrofit kits are still available from Hobie Cat.Another upgrade is to install one of the soft bag/ring type spinnaker snuffers.There are several that are commercially available.Two recommended snuffers would be the current Hobie Wildcat snuffer or SNU (Spinnaker Nesting Unit) from Barefoot Studios.If you have rudder or daggerboard hum, file down the trailing edges until quiet.Move the trapeze wire bungie cord outboard from the tramp grommets.Skippers trapeze is off of the shroud anchor and crews trapeze is inside the front crossbar like the Hobie 20 set up.This helps keep the tramp free of clutter. Special NeedsThe Tiger is a very robust sailing platform.However there are a few things to consider that will extend the competitive life of the boat.Trailer cradles are an absolute must to spread the load bearing weight across a large section of hull.Rollers will only dent and damage the hulls – DO NOT USE.Beach wheels are another necessity for launching and retrieving.Roll your boat directly into and out of the water…NEVER drag your boat across the sand.This will prolong the bottom contour of the hulls.Be sure to use the same trailer cradles on your beach wheels…not just padding over the axel.That will leave dents in your hulls.Once on the sand/grass/parking lot and still on the beach wheels, use stern protectors to keep the entire boat off the ground.Several styles are available – both commercially and homemade.Roll, never fold, your jib and main.Flake your spinnaker for storage.These actions will help prolong the life expectancy of your equipment. What to Look Out For in a Used BoatThere are many good used Tigers now on the secondary market.Look at the general condition of the hulls…are there any cracks at the crossbar saddles, in the glue seams, rigging tangs or daggerboard wells?Check for soft spots on the decks or any repaired areas.Inspect the foils…are they chipped or dinged?Look at the sails…are the main and jib rolled? Look for any rips/tears or repaired areas.Spinnakers take a lot of abuse with hoisting and dousing.Check for rips/tears/holes and the crispness of the material.It should not feel like limp tissue paper.It’s probably best to get a new spin if you’re going to race.Check all the rigging to be sure there are no broken strands or kinks.These are weak points which will fail eventually.Was the boat used exclusively in salt water?If so…check for any general corrosion. Used boats generally range from $4000 to $9500 with the boats in best condition commanding the higher prices. 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see Description For Shipping Info. | Distance from you | | ($4,500.00) | | | Description: | 2005 Hobie Tiger F18 catamaran. The mast was replaced in 2018. It comes with a boat cover, extra main sail, extra spinnaker sail, Chinook righting poll, beach wheels, 2 harnesses, 2 life jackets and a aluminum trailer with sailbox. The cover has shrunk but in ok condition . I also have the owner's manual and several sailing books on catamaran sailing. The boat is in good condition. | | Brand: | Hobie | | Model: | Tiger | | HIN#: | F18 | | City: | Cocoa | | State: | Florida |  The International Hobie Tiger The Tiger was Hobie's design entry into the newly created Formula 18 class. Born from the very first F18, the Alado 18 and designed by Jacques Valer, the Tiger quickly established itself as the premier F18 platform. Manufactured by Hobie Cat Europe and introduced in 1995, the Tiger was the boat to beat during its dominant 10 year run. The Hobie Tiger or Hobie Tiger 18, is a French catamaran sailboat that was designed by Hobie Cat Europe as a Formula 18 racer and first built in 1995. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] The Hobie Cat Tiger is a 18'1" (5.51m) double handed sport/beach catamaran designed by Hobie Cat Europe (France). She was built since 1995 (and now discontinued) by Hobie Cat (United States). The Hobie Tiger Catamaran. The Tiger was Hobie's design entry into the newly created Formula 18 class. Born from the very first F18, the Alado 18 and designed by Jacques Valer, the Tiger quickly established itself as the premier F18 platform. Manufactured by Hobie Cat Europe and introduced in 1995, the Tiger was the boat to beat during its ... For fun on the water or competitive racing, the Hobie Cat Catamaran has been the sailors choice the world over for over 50 years. Originally designed to Formula 18 rule. (twin trap.) First built in France. Introduced in USA in 2001. No longer in production for sale in US. Photo courtesy of Adam Hunt. The Hobie Tiger: Hobie's Formula 18 speed machine. The Hobie Tiger represents something of a departure from the traditional market for Hobie Cat. First launched in 1996, interest in the Hobie Tiger got off to a bit of a slow start in the UK, but successes in the Formula 18 circuit, for which it was developed, have stimulated a lot more interest. Hobie Tiger sailing offshore Durban. Training on Hobie Tigers was conducted over a two day period under the supervision of Blaine Dodds. ☞ SUPPORT JOYRIDER TV⛵️Channel Membership https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1lH...⛵️Patreon https://www.patreon.com/joseph_bennett ⛵️Getting a T-shirt ... A high performance import from Hobie U.S.A.'s Sister company, Hobie Cat Europe. The Hobie Tiger has become one of the most exciting and fastest growing catamaran one-design racing fleets in the world. Browse our line of hands-free MirageDrive kayaks, paddle kayaks and catamaran sailboats. Two Hobie Cats sailing in St Vaast, Normandy, France. Hobie Cat is a company that manufactures watercraft and other products as the Hobie Cat Company. "Hobie Cat" can also refer to specific products of the company, notably its sailing catamarans. Its fiberglass catamaran models range in nominal length between 14 feet (4.3 m) and 18 feet (5.5 m). Find Hobie Cat boats for sale near you, including boat prices, photos, and more. Locate Hobie Cat boat dealers and find your boat at Boat Trader! Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie Tiger / Wild Cat / F18. All times are UTC [ DST] Wild Cat vs. Tiger. Page 1 of 1 [ 3 posts ] ... Location: Vancouver, WA I guess because of the nature of the F-18 rule the Tiger and Wild Cat will always be rated the same, but at the same time Hobie (one assumes) felt that the Wild Cat was a faster ... The Hobie Wildcat is a Formula 18 developed by Hobie Cat Europe as a one-design within the Formula 18 rules. The class was recognised by the International Sailing Federation in November 2010. It is designed to replace the Hobie Tiger as a more up to date and competitive design within the Formula 18 fleet. [1] [2] Catamaran sailing repair tips, pictures, forums and classified ads catamarans for sale by owner Hobie, Nacra, AHPC, Solcat, Aqua Cat for sale. SOLD! ($4,500.00) None. Enter Your Zip Code. Description: 2005 Hobie Tiger F18 catamaran. The mast was replaced in 2018. It comes with a boat cover, extra main sail, extra spinnaker sail, Chinook righting poll, beach wheels, 2 harnesses, 2 life jackets and a aluminum trailer with sailbox. The cover has shrunk but in ok condition . Answer 1 of 8: If anyone knows, are there watersports(esp. catamarans or hobie-cats and windsurfing) available at Ngapali beach? If so, are they for public use or only for hotel guests? I'm desperate! Help me anyone! Thank you in advance)) Myanmar. Myanmar Tourism Myanmar Hotels Myanmar Bed and Breakfast ... I'd check Hobie Cat Division 12 to find out what is going on in your area, where your nearest Hobie fleet is, look at racing results on their web site and see what class has more boats. gulet. catamaran hobie cat tiger. Share on Facebook Share on Twitter. 436. IMAGES. Hobie Cat Tiger sailboat specifications and details on Boat-Specs.com Business, Economics, and Finance. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Crypto Second-hand HOBIE CAT 16 CLASSIC in Moscow & Moscow Region (Russia). Sale of Catamarans sailboat reference 56516. iNautia. New and used boats, boats for sale, used catamarans, yachts, inflatable boats, ... Log into your account; ... HOBIE CAT 16 CLASSIC. Catamaran sailboat from the year 1996 - 5,11m length - in Moscow & Moscow Region (Russia) | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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The next step was to purchase some .5" aluminum plate and some 3" aluminum tube. I paid $25 each for the wheels, $35 for the tube and $40 for the plate that is pictured. The stick of 2" .125 tube for the axle was $140. Smooth tires are $65 each. Here is a general mock of how the tube fits in the wheels (it doesn't)
These CatTrax AKA Hobie Wheels have been a long time coming with lots of promises in terms of saving your Hobie 16 and making it easier to launch from locati...
Cat Trax Catamaran Beach Wheels 8.6′ Beam $ 619.00. Cat Trax Catamaran Beach Wheels 8.6' Beam quantity. Add to cart. SKU: CT-8.5 Category: Catamaran Beach Wheels. Description; Additional information; Description. CatTrax Features 21" diameter by 12" wide balloon tire which rolls easily over any surface. 2 ply tubeless rubber construction ...
Now: $899.00. Was: $999.00. — You save $100.00. Quantity: More payment options. Add to Wish List. Description. This lightweight, yet sturdy rustproof beach dolly will carry your catamaran easily over sand, rocks, mud or pavement. The Cat Trax feature strong aluminum wheel rims with two-ply pneumatic rubber tires that disperse weight and do ...
Rusted out catamaran trailer, no longer usable (Craigslist is great!). Old ATV wheels/tires that did not hold air 1) Cut the trailer up with a saws-all, saved the axle and cross members that originally supported the catamaran, and couple of 3 foot pieces from the rest of the trailer. 2) I cut 16 inches out of the axle, welded it back together.
Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Help with repairs. All times are UTC [ DST] Homemade beach wheels. Page 1 of 1 [ 11 posts ] Previous topic ... Or remove the wheels and lock the shaft to the Hobie. Take wheels home w you. Top . fpichel Post subject: Re: Homemade beach wheels. Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:52 pm . Site Rank - Captain ...
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Catamaran sailing repair tips, pictures, forums and classified ads catamarans for sale by owner Hobie, Nacra, AHPC, Solcat, Aqua Cat for sale. Home; Forums ++ Latest Posts; Local Sailing; General Sailor Talk; Getting Started; ... to cut off the ends as wheel stops, had to re-drill the holes in the flange for the wheels, dremel'd out the stop in ...
This dolly style is custom-sized for catamarans of all kinds, from 13 Hobie Wave to the 19 Prindle. ... Pneumatic, non-corrosive, 16 inch x 4 inch wheels (the Dynamic 'Large' wheels) can be secured on wheel shaft with provided screws for added security. For soft sand conditions, tire pressure can be reduced to increase tire footprint.
3. It is fast. Maybe not as fast as a 16 but plenty fast for a beginner (or for me most of the time) with the added benefit that a Wave can go out in winds that would keep the 16's on the beach. It is an inherently safer boat. As for righting it, get a collapsible canvas bucket to add weight. And do get beach wheels.
That's $190 rim and tires (20 x 10 x 8), hubs 1" shaft $40, steel tubing $80=$310, plus you have pins and washers. Or wait for club cadet wheels and tires to come up on CL for cheap, or buy used set the Cattrax-- (looked into that but the guy said, cracks in rubber and hardly held air etc.)
Board index » Hobie Catamaran Sailing » Hobie Wave. All times are UTC [ DST] Wheels for Hobie Wave. Page 1 of 1 [ 8 posts ] ... Joined: Mon Jan 24, 2005 4:39 pm Posts: 39 I need some wheels for my Hobie Wave. I only have a short distance on the beach to move the boat with a slight hill. I'm hoping I can move it myself. What wheels can anyone ...
Sold Date. Source eBay. Cat Trax Dolly Catamaran Beach Wheels for Nacra, Hobie Cat Trax Dolly Catamaran Beach Wheels for Nacra, Hobie Prindle etc. I used this with my Nacra 5.7 which I sold last Fall. The cradles are 84 inches apart center to center. One tire leaks after a few days.
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Was: $849.00. — You save $100.00. Quantity: Decrease Quantity of 7′ Cat Trax Catamaran Beach Wheels. Increase Quantity of 7′ Cat Trax Catamaran Beach Wheels. More payment options. Add to Wish List. Description. This lightweight, yet sturdy rustproof beach dolly will carry your catamaran easily over sand, rocks, mud or pavement.
$ 13,990.00. Out of stock. This was the first sports catamaran that was ever invented and Hobie have resurrected it. With origins dating back to 1968, the Hobie 14 was a revolutio
A lot of the thing about beach wheels depends on where you have to launch. Pushing the boat around on beach wheels can be done solo. Takes some muscle but when balanced, as was said, not too much a problem. Unless you have to climb hills! Yes, balloon tires do sand; the plastic tires do harder, rockier surfaces.
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