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1985 Catalina 27

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27 Catalina 1985 Fin Keel Fresh Water Boat, Well Maintained Tohatsu 8 HP with Remote Controls and Low Hours New Listing!

Basic Boat Info Boat Name: Mason Make: Catalina Model: 27 Year: 1985 Condition: Used Category: Sail Builder: Catalina Yachts Designer: Frank Butler Construction: Fiberglass Boat Hull ID: CTYL6012D585 Has Hull ID: Yes Keel Type: Fin Keel Dimensions Length: 27 ft Length Overall: 26’10 ft Waterline Length: 21’9 ft Beam: 8’10 ft Max Draft: 4 ft Displacement: 6,850 lb Ballast: 2,700 lb Cabins Count: 2 Engines / Speed Engines: 1 Make: Tohatsu Model: 8 Fuel: Unleaded Engine Power: 8hp Type: Outboard Year: 2020 Engine Location: Port Other Heads Count: 1 Boat Class: Cruisers, Racers and Cruisers

Disclaimer The Company offers the details of this vessel in good faith but cannot guarantee or warrant the accuracy of this information nor warrant the condition of the vessel. A buyer should instruct his agents, or his surveyors, to investigate such details as the buyer desires validated. This vessel is offered subject to prior sale, price change, or withdrawal without notice.

Equipment: Deck, Sails & Rigging 8 HP Tohatsu Outboard with Remote Controls and Electric Start with low hours Tiller Steering Jib, Storm Jib,150 Genoa and Genaker in Good Condition Spinnaker Pole Main with Cover Four-Year-Old Bottom Bimini Cockpit Cushions SS Barbeque (in dock box) Very Clean

Accommodations V Berth Forward Head with Holding Tank and Sink Next Aft Main Salon has Opposing Settees with Fold Down Dining Table Quarterberth Aft to Starboard Galley with Sink, Propane and Alcohol Stoves and Ice Box to Port of Companionway Cushions in Very Good Condition

Electrical 12v System for Cabin/Navigation Lights and Instruments Solar Panel 12v Fans Digital Depth and Speed 2 Batteries

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

From BlueWaterBoats.org :

Launched in 1971, the Catalina 27 has been a popular favourite, enjoying the kind of commercial success that’s led to one of the longest and largest production runs of its era spanning 22 years and 6,600 boats. From the outset she was designed to be affordable (some have even said cheap) for weekend excursions, club racing and coastal cruising – offshore work was always outside of the design scope. Yet despite this there has been at least one circumnavigation demonstrating that this vessel, with the right preparation and skills, can be an ocean passage maker. We’ve included this boat here more for its popularity than its inherent seaworthiness.

The Catalina 27 was conceived in a 1970 design partnership between Robert Finch, and the founder of Catalina Yachts, Frank Butler. Butler built an incredible number of 27s at his boat factory in Southern California using modern boatbuilding processes that are not too different to methods employed today. Initial production started in 1971. She had a incredibly spacious interior and she was affordably priced at a time when cruising sailboats had captured the public imagination. These factors helped the boat find immediate success, in fact in the first three years 1,500 boats popped off the production line – that’s ten per week.

Early models were only available with outboard engines, an inboard option of an Atomic 4 engine was added in 1973, which later expanded to other engine varieties in successive years. The outboard engine option was later phased out in 1989. For shallow waters, a shoal draft winged-keel version was introduced in 1979. And popular among club racers, there was a version with a taller, more efficient, high aspect ratio rig which added 24 sq.ft. of canvas.

Production spread also to Canada and the UK. Cooper Enterprises in British Columbia, at the time one of the largest Canadian boatbuilders, produced well over a thousand boats under license for the Canadian domestic market and are a common sight around BC waterways today. While across the pond in the UK, the boat was built under license from as early as 1971 under the brand name Jaguar for UK and European markets. These were produced in Essex by Eric Birch Yachts (from 1971) and Russell Marine (from 1975) with the hulls molded by Seamaster Boats.

In 1979 a young 28 year old Patrick Childress set off in his shoal draft Catalina 27, Juggernaut , on a successful 3 year single-handed circumnavigation which included a 6400-mile, 53-day passage of the Indian Ocean.

After an unprecedented 22 years of production resulting in 6,600 boats, production finally ceased in 1991. Catalina succeeded the long lasting design with an all-new water-ballasted and trailerable weekender, the Catalina 270.

Configuration

The Catalina 27 is a fin-keeler with a raked spade rudder hanging about as far aft as possible, pushed along by a masthead sloop rig that’s tall and efficient. The hull shape is shallow and beamy which is great for initial stiffness to the wind but reduces liveable volume below the waterline. Butler made up for this by drawing deep topsides and a high cabin top all while keeping the design sleek to the eye. The result gives this 27-footer class leading interior headroom and space.

Below deck can best be described as light and spacious, this boat offers so much accommodation that many are willing to forgo her flaws. The companionway and hatch is wide which poses a water ingress hazard at sea but is responsible for her spacious feel in the cabin while at anchor. There’s technically berths for six in the standard aft-galley layout – two in the forepeak and the port side settee will really only fit kids or very short adults, while the starboard settee converts to a cozy double berth, and finally there’s a starboard seagoing quarterberth. The galley with its two burner stove is located on port below the companionway while the head is located just aft of the forepeak on starboard and is comfortably sized. Opposite the head is a locker, but note, as is typical of boats this size, locker and stowage space is in short supply.

Construction

Construction was pretty light. The hull is of solid fiberglass and much thinner than typical offshore counterparts, particularly above the waterline where small impacts that would normally lead to just a scratch may result in fractures for the Catalina 27. Early boats, as a cost cutting measure, lacked proper backing plates on deck hardware, stanchions, and rails, which lead to cracked gelcoat and in some cases fiberglass delamination. This was remedied in later boats.

The feel of the helm is very light and she sails responsively, or to quote the ever humorous John Vigor in 20 Small Sailboats to Take you Anywhere, “She handles like a dinghy, which is hardy surprising since that’s what she basically is – a dinghy with grandeur”. She is relatively stiff and holds her canvas well in a breeze. All this makes for a fast boat that’s easily controlled. The downside is seaworthiness. For best results Vigor recommends keeping her cruising weight down, as reduced weight will reduce stresses on the rig and hull at sea.

Note that the Catalina 27 is a beamy boat, and like others, there is a tendency for weather helm on greater angles of heel that will require either reefing the mainsail to maintain balance.

Buyers Notes

More than 6,600 Catalina 27s were made, so there’s plenty to choose from. If you’re on the hunt for a boat to sail protected coastal waters at a good price then she’s a good choice. For offshore work do your research and make sure you’ve modified your boat according to recommendations – probably the most important are enlarging the cockpit drains, reworking the companionway hatch area to help direct water into the cockpit, and uprated rigging including chainplates for the aft lower shrouds.

Some known weaknesses with this boat are listed below:

• As mentioned, early boats lacked backing plates on hardware, leading to cracks in the gelcoat and in some cases delamination of the GRP.
• Through-hull fittings were poorly installed and secondary bondings of attachments in some cases were poor.
• Leaky chain plates have caused bulkheads to deteriorate which in turn has increased the risk of rig failures.
• Fuel tank installations were poor on early inboard models.
• The original spreader sockets were made of cast aluminium which tended to crack when overstressed.
• Through-hull fittings in early boats were simply pipe nipples glassed into the hull and will need swapping out for proper flanged, bolt-through bronze fittings.
• While heeled, some have reported seawater back flowing into the icebox via the drain. Fit a proper seacock to the through-hull.

Links, References and Further Reading

» The Catalina 27/270 Owners Association » Twenty Small Sailboats to Take You Anywhere by John Vigor, (Ch8, p45-52) an in depth look at the Catalina 27. ISBN:978-0939837328 » Used Boat Notebook, Catalina 27, review by John Kretschmer, SAILING Magazine, Nov 2002, volume 37, no. 3 » Jaguar Owners Association for European Catalinas under the brand name Jaguar » A biography of Forbes Cooper of Cooper Yachts who built the Canadian Catalina 27s » Cruising World Magazine’s article on Patrick Childress’ two circumnavigations , first in his Catalina 27 and then in his Valiant 40 two decades later.

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Laguna 26' vs. Catalina 25'

• Thread starter Mary and Joseph
• Start date Apr 28, 2011
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Mary and Joseph

Hello, everyone! I have been researching sailboats for what seems like months now, trying to pick a suitable boat for my area to learn to sail on. Barnegat Bay is treacherous and choppy, with strong tidal currents, but shallow (4') in many places. I want to try and avoid anything likely to get tossed around, and I'd like a nice smooth ride, but I also need to avoid shoals and shallow spots - and what I've been reading means there's a compromise in there. This weekend, I am looking at a 1982 Catalina 25' (swing keel/poptop) and from the photos it looks as though its current owner had a little love affair going on, as the boat has everything restored and sparkling. I am also looking at a 26' Laguna with a fixed keel (3'6") that the current owner (just the second owner of this 1988 boat) has been, until this season, a conscientious owner, but who hasn't had a chance to maintain it because power/water was cut at his marina due to some on going bulkheading project and he tells me he's frustrated at not being able to keep it pristine. So, even though the boats are of different ages, the older boat may "show" better. And, I don't want to be swayed by a pretty salon table and shiny fiberglass. Long story short - if there is anyone who might give me an idea of how these two boats will handle; and an opinion on which one would be a better fit for a beginner, I would greatly appreciate the advice. Personally, at this point, I am leaning towards the Laguna - because I have been told (not sure if everything I hear is true) that the weight of the keel will be better in my Bay for handling the turbulence and pointing upwind. Any comments here would be helpful. Thank you! Mary & Joseph  

Basic stats for comparing both of these boats: http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=2911 http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=435 (I hope I picked the correct model of Catalina 25 - there are quite a few varieties.) It seems to me you've done a pretty good amount of research on these boats with an eye towards your sailing area of Barnegat Bay. While I'm not so familiar with either of these boats I would think that either of these would be fine on Barnegat Bay. I happen to be partial to center board boats (my Tartan 27' with full keel has one) as when you run aground you can simply raise the board. On the other hand the Laguna has only about a 3' draft. I'm not sure about the reputation of the Laguna sailboats; they may have been built a little more sturdy then your average Catalina. But Catalina is still in business for a reason and Laguna is not. Ideally, I'd say to look at both boats before deciding. Even better would be to get a sail on each so you can compare the way they each handle. All boats are trade offs in one way or another so choose carefully. Good luck.  

PS. We never did buy the O'Day 23', so my "profile" on this website is not accurate and needs to be updated.  

Used to own a Cat 25 and I loved the boat. handled every situation I put it in and came through with flying colors. So, I did a little checking and here is how the Laguna and the Cat compare Weight L-3900 C-4161 Sail area L- 275 C- 271 Capsize ratio L-2.12 C-1.99 Motion Comfort L-15.6 C-17.39 Speed L-6.21 C-6.3 Where Laguna gives up its performance is in the shoal keel and displacement. Cat 25 is a smother ride and faster and your ability to drop that swing keel to full depth (point better) and still get through the 4 ft. areas with keel part way up make it the winner. At least as I sees it. It also sounds like it is in much better shape than the Laguna. Good Luck either way you go. Fair winds. Sorry wrote down the wrong name, have the right numbers for the Laguna.  

Kaymar676 said: Where Lancer gives up its performance is in the shoal keel and displacement. Cat 25 is a smother ride and faster and your ability to drop that swing keel to full depth (point better) and still get through the 4 ft. areas with keel part way up make it the winner. At least as I sees it. It also sounds like it is in much better shape than the lancer. Good Luck either way you go. Fair winds Click to expand

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