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Mohawk solo 14 vs. wenonah vagabond.

I've moved this over from the fishing forum. Anyone here have experience with both the Mohawk Solo 14 in Royalex and the Wenonah Vagabond in the same? I can buy a Vagabond near home for about $125 more than I'd pay to have the Mohawk delivered. Is it worth the extra dollars for the Vagabond? My use will be about 50 percent in Ozark streams and 50 percent in small lakes and strip pits.

compare I have them both and like the Mohawk a little more on Moving water, and the WeNoNah a little more on flat water. I wish you were closer, I would let you paddle both. I would rather fish from the Mohawk.

Why? Why would you rather fish from the Mohawk?

Stability I don’t own one, but the Solo 14 is reputed to have good initial stability. This makes for a good fishing boat. The down side to this is that it will be a little slower on the lakes.

I had a Mohawk but it was the 13…a fun nimble boat that taught me a lot. Unfortunately it was the short boat for Ozark streams though I had a great time with it on the Buffalo all the way from Ponca to White River (my husband carried most of the load) I paddled the Vagabond for maybe twenty minutes. Stable not exciting. I dont fish but it might have attributes for fishing that the Mohawk does not have. The Vag was not a great turner…I could if heeled to the rail but you most likely wont want to do that fishing. I would take it down Ozark streams but given a choice I would go for the Mohawk first.

Have paddled both Have paddled both and agree with madmike. I have a Solo 14 and since I paddle mostly moving water I prefer it. On large flatwater (like the lower Wisconsin River or lakes) I would give the nod to the Vagabond. Also, with the stock seats you sit a bit higher in the Solo 14 which I prefer, however you could always adjust the seat height in either both to meet your preference. Both boats handle both types of water well but the difference is on the margins. Since I don’t fish I can’t help you with that part of the decision. Final choice is up to you and it would be best if you can test paddle each boat. But if you can’t test paddle the Solo 14, and a test paddle of the Vagabond (should be no problem test paddling that with a local dealer) meets you needs I would choose the Vagabond. Better to choose a boat you have paddled and liked than to buy one blind.

I’ve owned one, not both I had a Royalex Vagabond for a few years. It’s a decent choice for fishing, and I’m sure it would handle your needs just fine. I’ll also say that for a ho-hum Royalex solo, you might be surprised at how nicely it cruises along. For Ozark streams I’d prefer something more maneuverable than a Vagabond, and if the Solo 14 is better for twisty-turny stuff as some have said, you’ll have to weigh that aspect against the faster cruising speed of the Vagabond.

...tough call. I've paddled the Vagabond a few times and the wife has one. It works very well for her on Ozark streams. Two other friends (Bob's wife, JoAnne, and Duggae) also own Vagabonds and they too paddle theirs on Ozark streams and have for a few years now. One more paddler whom I believe also favors the Vagabond for Ozark rivers is artist, Al Agnew (Al_A here on P.net). My impression is that the Vagabond is a bit better than the Solo 14 in windy conditions and flatter water while giving up little in maneuverability or stability to the Solo 14. IMHO, it's not "Fast," but faster than the Solo 14 and easy to get up to and maintain a decent pace. I paddled the Solo 14 for 5 +/- years. Not very fast, but maneuverable and well mannered. Very stable for a solo canoe. Only problem I ever had was with large wave trains and some Class II drops where this boat will take on some water. Only "Swims" I had from this boat were on the shut-ins section of Big Creek, in the MO Ozarks. But the time I ran the Ponca section of the Buffalo, I wallowed to shore a couple times with a boatload of water and a friend with a Solo 14 swam a couple times with that moderately low bow. The Mohawk Odyssey is a better boat if you plan on bigger water like that. Both boats will work on Ozark streams. Having owned the Mohawk and seen and paddled the Vagabond, I'd give the Vagabond a slight "Edge." If the Vagabond was cheaper, that would be the "Clincher" for me. If the Mohawk was cheaper, heck, that makes it a little tougher. But, IMHO, the Vagabond is a little bit better boat. WW

I bet it comes down to the price Either will worrk for sure. Twisty little streams and less rockered boats can work if you put a little heel on the boat during turns…that is if the stems will free up a little. One Buffalo trip at just below flood stage I ran in a Swift Heron…relative of the Hemlock Peregrine. Now Gray Rocks did get me dumped…wave train number one through four was fun and then I realized I had so much water in the boat that number five would be a bath. I have done it in a Merlin II also. All will make it but the Solo 13 was just more fun…did not have to plan and set up so far ahead when there was whitewater.

Thoughts… I agree that the Vagabond is faster, better-tracking, but less maneuverable. However, I’ve never had any problem maneuvering mine, and I float and fish all kinds of Ozark streams from little marginally canoeable ones to the bigger rivers. And in my opinion, unless you’re planning on running the few stream sections in the Ozarks that are considered whitewater, you do not need a canoe that’s highly maneuverable at the expense of tracking ability. In fact, my solo canoe experience went from an Old Town Pack–very maneuverable but doesn’t track well at all–through a Wenonah Sandpiper–slightly better at tracking but not much–to the Vagabond. I’d only had the Sandpiper for about a year when I paddled a friend’s Vagabond, and immediately dumped the Sandpiper and got a Vagabond expressly because of its better tracking ability. The most common hazard in Ozark streams is the fast, curving riffle with drift logs and overhanging trees on the faster outside of the bend. You most easily negotiate these places by back-ferrying–pointing the front end of the canoe where you DON’T want to go and backpaddling, keeping the canoe at the right angle for the current to work with you rather than against you, as happens if you try to forward paddle past the obstructions. A canoe that tracks well is much easier to hold the angle without a lot of switching sides or making less powerful corrective strokes. Also, all the larger Ozark streams have a lot of flat water, big pools that are not the best places to fish for smallmouth bass. I generally paddle through the slow middle portions of those big dead pools, and I want a canoe that will get me through them with a minimum of effort. (And, I want one that will get me down the river in a hurry on those rather common instances when it’s a half-hour before dark and I’m still two miles from the take-out!) So I think the Vagabond is the better choice. However, having said all that, the Solo 14 is good enough that the cheaper price might offset the Vagabond’s advantages. However, I wouldn’t recommend the cheaper Royalite version of the Solo 14…I’ve heard too many complaints about its durability.

I agree Either would work fine. It is a matter of preference whether to lean towards the harder tracking or the more maneuverable boat. For an equal mix of flat water and relatively straightforward river use, I would probably prefer the Vagabond as well.

I’d go along with that too. When I said that for streams I’d prefer something more maneuverable, I was saying that from a “canoeing” standpoint. The fact is, the Vagabond not as much “fun” when working around bends and obstacles as a more maneuverable canoe, but it’s maneuverable enough to get the job done, and your point about more easily passing through each long pool of slow water is a good one.

Odyssey Also take a look at the Mohawk Odyssey. It is not fast (but not very much diff than the “14”) but much more versatile. If you install a foot brace, you can sit and switch paddle with a bent shaft and it does surprisingly well (aka marathon canoe race style). For rapids, install kneeling pads and switch to a straight shaft paddle and use northwoods style. Then just move back and forth as the water type dictates. For Mohawks, definately do not be afraid to raise the seat or move the seat foward a bit. At least on the Odyssey, I do not get their seat placement, it is too low. The Odyssey (aka Challenger; original design by no other than Gene Jensen I beleive) has the advantage of holding 100+ lbs of gear for camping and easily handling Class 2s. The “14” may not work as well for that, especially in rapids. I have used it on most the Ozark Rivers, Wisconsin Rivers, and bigger stuff in Canada. With a decent bent shaft paddle and some practice, you can pace or stay reasonably close to the tandems most the time; not so if you prefer just J stroking. Learn to ride wake and you are golden. Empty it is a hoot. Very menueverable. I bought the light wt version and though a bit less rugged, I have beat the snot out of it and still going after 10 years. Do install skid plates. Great and underated boat. Have fun.

Review of Hobie One-14

Basic specs..

The hull is made of fibreglass. Generally, a hull made of fibreglass requires only a minimum of maintenance during the sailing season. And outside the sailing season, just bottom cleaning and perhaps anti-fouling painting once a year - a few hours of work, that's all.

The boat equipped with a fractional rig. A fractional rig has smaller headsails which make tacking easier, which is an advantage for cruisers and racers, of course. The downside is that having the wind from behind often requires a genaker or a spinnaker for optimal speed.

CentreBoard

The Hobie One-14 is equipped with a centreboard keel. A centreboard keel is a pivoting lifting keel, allowing to sail both coastal and inland waters.

The boat can sail close to the beach as the draft is just 0.15 - 0.25 meter (0.49 - 0.79 ft) dependent of the load. See immersion rate below.

Sailing characteristics

This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.

The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Hobie One-14 is about 46 kg/cm, alternatively 258 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 46 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 258 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.

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Vagabond 14 - Trailerable Daysailer and Weekend Cruiser

Introducing the vagabond 14 sailboat, owning and customizing a vagabond 14, adventuring under sail.

For adventure seekers looking to explore the open waters, the Vagabond 14 sailboat offers an exciting option for day sailing or weekend cruising. As a smaller, trailerable sailboat, the Vagabond 14 combines versatility, performance, and classic good looks into one elegant package.

Built by Vagabond Yachts in Southern California, the Vagabond 14 first launched in 2002 and continues production today. With its sleek lines and rounded stern, this 14-foot craft draws inspiration from the timeless Cape Dory sailboats of New England.

Key Features of the Vagabond 14

What exactly does this pocket cruiser have to offer? Here are some of the Vagabond 14's essential features:

• Sloop rig with a staysail and mainsail
• Spacious open cockpit with room for up to 4 adults
• Roomy storage compartments for gear
• Tiller steering with 360 degree visibility
• Retractable keel and kick-up rudder
• Mast raising system for easy setup
• Available in sail-away or customizable options

With its simple rig and retractable keel, the Vagabond 14 achieves respectable performance while remaining highly trailerable. The keel retracts to just 2.5', allowing easy launching and retrieval. A thoughtfully designed cockpit provides comfortable seating for several adults, making this a wonderful boat for daysailing with friends and family.

Sailing Performance of the Vagabond 14

Despite its small size, reviewers praise the Vagabond 14's sailing abilities. With the keel lowered, it tracks well and achieves good speeds while remaining stable in a variety of conditions. The sloop rig is easy to handle, even for beginners, yet offers good power when needed.

The retractable keel gives the Vagabond 14 versatility to sail in both deeper and shallower waters. Dropping the keel enables it to sail more like a traditional yacht. Retracting the keel turns it into a centerboard boat capable of navigating rivers, lakes, and shorelines. This adaptability expands the possibilities for where the little Vagabond can go.

Trailerability and Transport

One of the Vagabond 14's biggest assets is its trailerable size. At just 14 feet with a retracted draft of 2.5 feet, it is simple to tow behind many mid-sized vehicles for access to a variety of launching spots.

On the water, the Vagabond 14 can reach speeds around 10 mph when powered by its 70 sq. ft mainsail and 28 sq. ft jib. It can sail in winds of 25-30 mph when reefed. With such capabilities, adventurers can explore coves, islands, beaches, and inland waters only accessible by small boat.

When the journey is done, the Vagabond 14 can load onto its trailer in minutes. The sturdy mast raising system enables one person to lower and raise the mast. This simplicity means more days on the water with less hassle.

Pricing for a new Vagabond 14 starts around $15,000 - $20,000 for a sail-away model with all rigging and essentials included. Customization options let owners upgrade sail materials, add trailer packages, and select from several hull and deck colors.

Inside the cockpit, white vinyl cushions keep passengers comfortable. Storage space under the side benches and foredeck area provide room for supplies and gear. A locker at the helm holds smaller items within easy reach.

The Vagabond 14 is just as suitable for casual family cruising as performance racing. Owners can outfit it to match their style by adding extras like:

• Bimini top or cockpit tent for shade
• Marine radio for communication
• Electrical system with navigation lights
• Tiller pilot for hands-free sailing
• Cabin amenities like porta potti or icebox

This versatility makes the Vagabond 14 at home on lakes, bays, shorelines, and beyond. Trailer it to a new destination each weekend or keep it moored at your local sailing club.

Maintenance and Care

Like all sailboats, proper care and maintenance will keep a Vagabond 14 in good sailing condition for years. Recommended tasks include:

• Rinsing the hull with fresh water after saltwater use
• Checking for chafe on halyards, sail edges, rigging
• Inspecting hardware for tightness
• Cleaning and lubricating moving parts
• Applying UV protecting wax to the hull
• Storing indoors or under cover during harsh weather

The Vagabond 14 is constructed from hand-laid fiberglass making the hull robust and durable. However, routine maintenance will help it last longer and look its best.

For sailors who delight in reaching tucked-away anchorages, seeking new horizons, and reveling in the freedom of the seas, the Vagabond 14 offers a gateway to adventure. Its versatility transitions seamlessly from trailer to water, enabling exploration further inland or along rugged coastlines.

Wherever there is wind and water, the Vagabond 14 excels. Sail into the sunset after a day of island hopping, lie beneath the stars after anchoring in a secluded cove, or pack a lunch and spend a day circumnavigating a lake. With a Vagabond, the possibilities are endless.

Though compact in size, the Vagabond 14 provides ample space for several adults to enjoy time on the water. Family daysailing, overnight camping trips, and racing at the yacht club are all within reach. This plucky little craft punches far above its weight class.

For skippers seeking an affordable, trailerable sailboat without sacrificing performance or aesthetics, the Vagabond 14 checks all the boxes. Its simplicity, capabilities, and classic styling craft an opportunity to embark on aquatic adventures from the seat of an elegant daysailer. Let the journey begin!

How many people can the Vagabond 14 comfortably fit?

The Vagabond 14 has seating for up to 4 adults in its open cockpit layout. For overnight cruising, 2 adults is ideal.

What is the weight capacity of the Vagabond 14?

The Vagabond 14 has a total weight capacity of around 1200 lbs. This includes passengers, gear, engine, etc.

How shallow can the Vagabond 14 sail when the keel is retracted?

With the keel retracted, the Vagabond 14 draws only 2.5 ft allowing it to navigate in as little as 3 feet of water.

What vehicle is needed to trailer the Vagabond 14?

A mid-sized SUV, crossover, or pickup truck is typically suitable for trailering the Vagabond 14 which weighs around 1000 lbs fully loaded.

How fast can the Vagabond 14 sail?

The Vagabond 14 is capable of sailing up to 10 mph or more with optimum winds. Average cruising speed is 5-7 mph.

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Holder 14 is a 13 ′ 8 ″ / 4.2 m monohull sailboat designed by Ron Holder and built by Hobie Cat between 1983 and 1986.

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

Nearly the same as the VAGABOND 14. Vagabond was purchased by Coast Catamaran in 1982 (builders of the Hobie Cat and owned by Coleman Company Inc.) and called the HOBIE ONE-14. Also sold as the O’DAY 14 and the MONARCH 14. Rig dimension (I,J,P,E) shown here are actually for HOLDER 14 MKII. Thanks to Judy Blumhorst, of HydeSailsdirect.com for providing this information.

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I bought a little sailboat at the used car lot

• Thread starter Dale_K
• Start date Oct 17, 2008
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Dale, is this the lil' sailboat that was manufactured in AR by Monarch boats? Great deal. I used to have a Hobie and we dragged it to Hot Springs once or twice. Have fun. If you ever haul up to NW Arkansas, look us up at Beaver Lake Sail Club.  

That looks like a perfect boat for the lake you are sailing on and since it is a trailer sailor it won't cost you all your arms and legs. It is nearly the same as the Holder 14' isn't it? I have sailed the Holder somewhere and it is a fun boat. I am curious how much the used car lot charged you for the boat? Looks great. Enjoy.  

Nice lake Is that your house in the foreground?  

Jim Kolstoe

Cool Now all you have to watch out for is 3ft-itis. Welcome to sailing. Jim Kolstoe, h23 Kara's Boo  

Nice Boat! Welcome aboard!  

Nice boat... looks a lot like the O'Day Javelin that my friends just bought this past fall.  

Morningstar303

Andy1237 said: Dale, is this the lil' sailboat that was manufactured in AR by Monarch boats? Great deal. I used to have a Hobie and we dragged it to Hot Springs once or twice. Have fun. If you ever haul up to NW Arkansas, look us up at Beaver Lake Sail Club. Click to expand

Holder 14 Do you still have your Holder 14?  

Dale, Enjoyed your posts on the Vagabond 14. Just bought one last fall (moved up from a Sunfish). Can you advise me on selection of an outboard motor? What length shaft works best - 15" or 20"? Is 2.5 hp strong enough? Many thanks. Lee  

With trailer and motor (and pretty sails!) that's a good score, Dale. Lee, I believe 2 or 2.5 HP would be just fine. Most dinghy sailors on small lakes will just use oars when the wind dies, so a little motor is a bonus.  

kenn said: With trailer and motor (and pretty sails!) that's a good score, Dale. Lee, I believe 2 or 2.5 HP would be just fine. Most dinghy sailors on small lakes will just use oars when the wind dies, so a little motor is a bonus. Click to expand

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